[Talk-GB] Right of Way Rendering (from Scottish paths map)

SK53 sk53.osm at gmail.com
Tue Sep 14 09:17:22 UTC 2021


I'm aware of at least 3 online renderings showing Rights of Way (trying to
show the same area as on the Wight Map landing page)

* Andy Townsend's "useful" map:
https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=15&lat=54.209&lon=-1.23322.
* Nick Whitlegg's "Map the Paths" which shows Rights of Way from official
sources & whether they are on OSM with an OS OpenLocal background:
https://www.mapthepaths.org.uk/?lat=50.60591414087789&lon=-1.285068148625025&zoom=1&mode=0
* Nick Whitleggs "Free Map" rather lighter in detail than Andy's and, I
think, not under active development. No permalink, so search for "Whitwell,
Isle of Wight": https://www.free-map.org.uk/#

Nick also offers android apps OpenTrail & MapthePaths.

I'm not aware of an OSMAnd custom style other than Andy's initial version
<https://github.com/SomeoneElseOSM/osmand_files>, but there are custom
styles and maps for Garmin devices and possibly in MapsForge format.
Personally I have also used transparent overlays on Garmin & as geojson
with Maps.me for highlighting ProWs.

J



On Tue, 14 Sept 2021 at 09:39, Brian via Talk-GB <talk-gb at openstreetmap.org>
wrote:

> The rendering of https://wightpaths.co.uk/ suggested by the contributor
> in the "Scottish paths map" thread are a great improvement.
>
> Can any expert tell me if it is possible to implement that in OsmAnd for
> example (or other apps), either in general or on my own personal version?
>
> Brian
>
> 14 Sept 2021, 08:29 by talk-gb at openstreetmap.org:
>
> >
> > >    On 13/09/2021 17:54, Andy Townsend wrote:
> >
> >>> Historically the Ramblers (at least where I've encountered them, in
> >>> England and Wales) have tended to use Ordnance Survey Maps rather than
> >>> OSM.  There are exceptions (at least one Ramblers Footpath Secretary
> >>> regularly posts to this list).  I've never quite understood this - in
> >>> Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire and North Yorkshire, OSM has far more
> >>> detail, and pretty much anywhere a tourist would want to go is in
> >>> there.  There are some "rights of way in name only" missing from OSM,
> >>> but even they are getting added*.
> >>>
> > >There are, I think, two main reasons why walkers in general still
> >prefer
> > >OS maps to OSM.
> >
> > >The first is that the default OSM render doesn't give any visible
> > >indication of rights of way, unlike OS which clearly highlights them. I
> > >know the information is there in the data, but it's the standard render
> > >which is "the map" to most people. And I'm not, offhand, aware of an
> >OSM
> > >layer that is geared to the needs of walkers and does clearly show
> > >rights of way. There are a some good layers aimed at cyclists, but none
> > >that I've found that are specific to the needs of walkers.
> >
> > >The second is that having an OS map in your hand, or on your phone, is
> >a
> > >very good answer to the question "what right do you have to be here?".
> > >Because pretty much everyone knows that OS maps show the legal rights
> >of
> > >way, and you can point to them as justification for using a path or
> > >track. But OSM suffers from the Wikipedia problem in this respect;
> > >because it's user-generated data you can never be 100% certain that
> >it's
> > >accurate. As far as access rights are concerned, you still need to
> >check
> > >with definitive sources if there happens to be a dispute. And OS maps
> > >are, for most of the public, the definitive source.
> >
> > >Mark
> >
> > Continuing from the Scottish paths map thread, I agree wholeheartedly
> with the comment by Mark. I do a lot of walking, and am also a contributor
> to the OSM, but I generally use OS Explorer maps because it is so much
> easier to see the ROWs.
> >
> > Using any of the apps that use OSM that I have tried, even ones
> supposedly for walkers, its really hard work (if not impossible) to see
> that level of information. Its not "in your face" as displayed on an OS map.
> >
> > This is a real shame and weakness of the system. We are all working
> really hard to put as much detailed information into the map - but as a
> consumer it is not easy to get it out again unless someone goes to a lot of
> trouble to create a specific rendering.
> >
> > Rendering is not an area I know or understand very well. Does anyone
> know of a project to create an easy to use customisable rendering interface
> for naive users?
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
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