[Talk-GB] Mapbox' mapping activity

[Sonya Khilchyk]

Hi, Brian!
In Mapbox we have an awesome HR policy because we have a lot of
international teams. People who work on solving road network problems in
OSM are part of the DATA RAVE team located in Minsk, Belarus. That’s why we
have similar nicknames by type. Our team was presented on SoTM 2021, so as
soon as the record will be available, you can watch more info about our
team.
We don’t have a special team of mappers, it’s just part of our work from
all other tasks. Except for provided archives with jsons OSM community can
generate these issues by yourself and work with it. Links to our osmlint
you can see on the wiki pages.

We work on fixing OSM data not only in the UK, but all over the world. If
OSM community users want to participate in solving mapping issues, we will
appreciate this labor.

Best regards

On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 9:55 PM Brian Prangle <bprangle at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sonya
>
> Judging by the user names  in your comments doc you are recruiting your
> mappers from a  very restricted ethnic grouping (not  good HR policy)- or
> perhaps you have outsourced it to a cheap labour jurisdiction which are
> notorious for being ( naturally) lacking in knowledge of the cultural
> nuances of a distant location. Why don't you recruit mappers for this
> activity from the UK? The local chapter OSMUK operates a talent pool
> <https://osmuk.org/professional-services/> for mappers who are seeking
> paid work. You'd get a much higher quality input, have the ability to
> ground truth things  and not piss off the OSM UK community so much. Or just
> publish a list of errors as you see them by county and let the local
> community clear things up?
>
> I've had prior experience of a mapbox mapper remotely mapping from out of
> date aerial imagery a new complex junction that I'd recently surveyed and
> they edited out much of the survey data, reinstating roads that had been
> razed ( and even introduced new errors from not really being able to read
> aerial imagery) so I'm not very confident that your assurances will prevent
> too much damage being done as your mappers move along their learning curve.
>
> Regards
>
> Brian
>
>
> On Thu, 16 Sept 2021 at 18:20, Sonya Khilchyk via Talk-GB <
> talk-gb at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Andy!
>>
>> Thank you for raising these issues.
>>
>> We agree about how to investigate ground truth for edits. Only would like
>> to mention that in case with broken turn restrictions they’re invalid due
>> to missing role mostly, and in some cases there’s no need in them anymore
>> (because of adding oneway road for example) and we don’t broke anything by
>> deleting restrictions which not working. But we heard you and won’t delete
>> if we are not 1000 % sure.
>>
>> About our not in time replies, sorry for that, it seems like it is just
>> an issue of one person and we will work with a team and create better ways
>> of controlling this issue. But generally our folks answer during the
>> working day or in the next one (because we have different time zones).
>> Exceptions can be if someone is on a sick leave or vacation.
>>
>> Also our team is doing all their best to improve data quality and
>> resolving more than a thousand fixes per week now, so it’s possible to have
>> some issues due to human factors. Despite the fact that we map according to
>> our working tasks, we are still humans who can make mistakes but are always
>> learning from them.
>>
>> And moreover, we are always staying respectful to any coming comments and
>> feedback and awaiting the same way of communication from communities.
>>
>> Here is a link
>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KR7Jwhw7GyDL4AKxOykSK5S8UUafuwLxz7DRerp8NnA/edit#gid=0>
>> with response statistics of the team that participate in discussed
>> projects. Here you can see that we answer the comments stable and as fast
>> as possible.
>>
>> The team is already working on developing metrics that will allow us to
>> track comments on our changesets. It also will help to respond on time and
>> show some statistics to community if necessary.
>>
>>
>> Best Regards, Sonya
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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