[Talk-GB] Mapbox mapping activity

Sonya Khilchyk sofiya.khilchyk at mapbox.com
Wed Sep 22 10:39:26 UTC 2021


Hi!
We share json archives with linters that we plan to fix, which can be
looked through http://geojson.io
Also you can use https://maproulette.org/ where users can make a project by
adding json files, so you can look through json we sent.
We will prepare more specific documentation about how we work with the
Linters and about our approach in resolving issues mentioned in feedback. After
discussion of our work with restrictions with the Italy OSM community, we
changed the approach. Now we don’t delete restrictions if there are no
clear proofs of it. We leave notes about broken restrictions if we don’t
have ground truth sources for mapping them.
Always open for your comments and feedback.

Best regards

On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 4:26 PM Andy Townsend <ajt1047 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 20/09/2021 13:50, Sonya Khilchyk via Talk-GB wrote:
>
> We already notified you at the end of August that we plan to start a
> mapping project.
>
> ... and since then I think that it's fair to say that "questions have been
> raised about the approach and quality of the edits performed".
>
>
> We updated our wiki page
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing/Activities/Resolve_linting_issues_in_the_UK>
> and ticket <https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues/387> with json
> files, so you can get more information about items we are working with.
>
> No we can't.  Searching either
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing/Activities/Resolve_linting_issues_in_the_UK
> or https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues/387 for json finds nothing.
> A table has been added but it adds literally no value - it does not explain
> how these alleged problems were detected, what each one represents, or how
> Mapbox propose to resolve the issues.  The wiki page says "We will use
> existing OpenStreetMap editing tools" but that's about as useful as this:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1sM29zGxeo .
>
> Often what seems to happen is that the Mapbox mapper is simply removing
> something that is getting flagged up as "invalid" without investigating
> whether anything is mismapped at all.  Mapbox mapper's "solutions" have
> included "adding a cycleway without survey to prevent vehicle routing" (the
> actual problem was that a gate, visible on aerial imagery, was missing from
> OSM and their router was buggy) and "just deleting a road" (the actual
> problem there seems to be that the road exists, but is a path not open to
> vehicle traffic).  My experience of Mapbox's mapping local to me is that it
> is actually _reducing_ the quality of OSM data by removing features that
> people have tried to add but haven't quite got right, or that have become
> broken by some other mapper than didn't understand the feature.
>
> For everyone else's benefit, the Mapbox employees taking part in the
> exercise seem to be from
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapbox#Current_Data_Team_members
>
> Based on the quality of these individuals' editing so far, I would regard
> any edits by these users with great suspicion.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Andy
>
>
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