[Talk-GB] Finding out if a TFL bus stop is still active

[Chris Hodges]

I think there's some lax use of terminology as well, by various 
transport providers.

The description below implies a stand can't be a passenger-serving stop.

On the other hand at the sort of mini bus-station you see at shopping 
centres etc., the stand (sometimes labelled as such) where the bus is 
left while the driver has a break is also where passengers  board just 
before departure.  Bristol Airport certainly has stands 1 and 2 where 
passengers board, e.g. wsmjwpj resolves to Airport Terminal (Stand 2), 
Bristol International Airport.

Chris



On 30/09/2021 11:09, David Woolley via Talk-GB wrote:
> On 30/09/2021 10:32, Mat Attlee wrote:
>> Now how do I tag this as a bus stand? I can't see anything in the 
>> wiki under https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dbus_stop 
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dbus_stop> or 
>> anywhere else
>
> I think the basic problem is that public transport has been treated 
> from a consumer point of view only, and doesn't include 
> infrastructure.  E.g. although bus depots are included, in OSM, they 
> are a special case of depot, not part of the public transport model.
>
> Bus stands are a sort of depot without a roof!
>
> I haven't thought the following through in detail, but logically 
> stands are parking areas, restricted to public service vehicles only.  
> I wonder if one could model them in that way.
>
> Unfortunately, I suspect that many bus stands have been modelled as 
> bus stops, and the quick research I did, yesterday, suggests that 
> things called stands have even been included in routes, ignoring the 
> rule against doing that (routes were described as starting at a stand).
>
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