[Talk-GB] Cycle hire parking

[Mat Attlee]

I agree that they should be tagged for their intended purpose, which is a
place where people can drop off a dockless bicycle. As I find them I've
been tagging it as a bicycle_rental=dropoff_point and leaving a note that
it is cycle hire parking eg https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/9923011317

I imagine part of the reason that the cycle hire parking is so under
utilised is because aside from the sign it's not easy to differentiate from
standard bicycle parking stands, which arguably is all the more reason to
tag it differently.


On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 at 11:03, Andy Allan <gravitystorm at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 at 17:49, Mat Attlee <mattattlee at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Any further thoughts on this? Does anyone have any contacts with the
> London councils regarding the specific and intent purpose of the cycle hire
> parking? It is my understanding the council wants people to leave dockless
> rental bicycles at these locations to not clutter the pavement, in which
> case there is an argument to tag it as a drop off point.
> >
> > I've also started a thread on the community forum
> https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/cycle-hire-parking/1984
>
> I would try to avoid any "oh no it isn't" tagging. So I think not
> amenity=bicycle_parking, in my opinion, since if you turned up there
> with your own bike, you'd be disappointed to find that it's not
> (intended) for use as regular bike parking.
>
> For amenity=bicycle_rental I guess that's appropriate, since all these
> may or may not have bikes available. I'm not sure what
> "bicycle_rental=dropoff_point" implies, since what's shown here isn't
> substantially different from how a normal bike rental point operates
> (e.g. Santander bikes) - there's spaces for bikes, there might be some
> to hire, there might be space to dropoff, if a bike is dropped off you
> can subsequently rent it. Aside from dockless schemes, I've used
> non-dockless bike rental in other cities (e.g. Wavelo in Krakow) where
> the dock locations were just bits of bent metal to attach the bikes
> to, the bikes had all the gubbins including a built-in d-lock, so
> what's pictured here is functionally the same as those.
>
> Of course, there can be a case made that if these are in a borough
> which has no active bike hire schemes, then they are disused!
>
> Thanks,
> Andy
>
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