[Talk-GB] TfL CID: Lockers where the user must bring own lock vs built-in

[Andy Allan]

On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 at 13:49, Martin - CycleStreets
<list-osm-talk-gb at cyclestreets.net> wrote:

> The cycle parking part of the TfL CID dataset has a field for whether a
> cycle locker requires the user to bring and use their own lock or whether a
> built-in locking mechanism is included.
>
> This is obviously a minor thing, but it seems a shame unnecessarily to lose
> data that has been collected.
>
> There is no current OSM tag that I can see for this distinction, so we
> propose to make a new one. This is discussed at:
> https://github.com/cyclestreets/tflcid-conversion/issues/37
>
> matkoniecz has suggested on that ticket the following, which seem clear and
> sensible to me:
>
> bicycle_lock=provided
> bicycle_lock=bring_own

I've come across bicycle lockers that need your own lock, for example
at the Barnes Wetland Centre. But I haven't come across (and can't
quite imagine) one where the lock is provided for you.

The example linked to from the ticket doesn't look to me like a locker
where a lock is provided - it looks more like a cage around a set of
parking stands, so more like "private bike parking" where there's no
lock (for your bike) provided, but there is a lock (for the compound)
provided. But the picture is unclear to me.

So I'm not quite sure that these two situations are really two sides
of the same coin, but I'd love to see some examples of the
"bicycle_lock=provided" so we can get a better picture.

Finally, bicycle_lock = bring_own is perhaps the wrong tag for the
bicycle locker - a plain text reading of "bicycle lock - bring own"
would apply to regular sheffield stands. As far as I can tell, we're
discussing the need to bring your own lock for the locker, rather than
the bicycle. Using the Wetland Centre again, there they have lockers
(the door needs your own lock) and inside each locker is a solitary
sheffield stand (which need your own lock) and you can lock either or,
as I do, both.

Thanks,
Andy