[Talk-GB] Samuel Smith pubs - brand or operator?

Dave F davefoxfac63 at btinternet.com
Thu Aug 4 17:26:58 UTC 2022


As Smith's rarely have cask beers I make an argument that they're not 
actually pubs, but that's probably just me.

DaveF

On 04/08/2022 16:41, Mat Attlee wrote:
> I've created a draft PR on the name suggestion index where Samuel 
> Smith is the brand I'm keen to get feedback 
> https://github.com/osmlab/name-suggestion-index/pull/6869
>
> Looking at https://runapub.co.uk/ it appears they are also the 
> operator too as they pay the salary of anyone who wants to run a pub 
> so it's not a franchise, in which case should I make them both the 
> brand and the operator or just the operator?
>
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 at 10:37, Paul Berry <pmberry2007 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Hi Mat,
>
>     Interesting question. Sam Smith's tend to be quiet, in terms of
>     pub frontage/signage, that they're the operator (though it's
>     obvious once you're inside) so I wouldn't say they "brand"
>     their pubs. Contrast with, say, Wetherspoons, who always appear to
>     declare they're a "Wetherspoons Free House" before you enter. Both
>     are operators without doubt, but are they both brands?
>
>     Pubs and mapping seem to be soul mates in terms of interests so
>     expect some further discussion!
>
>     Regards,
>     /Paul/
>
>     On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 at 10:24, Mat Attlee <mattattlee at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>         I've noticed that there isn't a NSI entry for Samuel Smith
>         pubs so I am going to create one but before I do, are they the
>         brand or operator? To date it has been tagged as the operator
>         eg but wanted to double check
>
>         https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/153690421
>         https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/135117838
>
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