[Talk-GB] Cycle hire parking

[SK53]

If the council are installing these themselves, or even if subcontracting
the work, I would imagine they'd store positions within the GIS and use
that to create job cards for the work required (this was talked about a
fair bit at a QGIS user meeting years ago). Given that awareness of the
locations of other street furniture ought to play a part in siting new
stands, I'd have thought data will come from the GIS and most likely will
have been related to existing GIS layers & Master Map. Of course actual
installed locations may differ slightly as I doubt if the people doing the
work carry fancy GPS.

Obviously for things like lampposts accurate location is critical as a
lighting plan will have been used to minimise their number for a given
coverage, but I've always wondered about tree locations from open data
sources. Most seem very accurate, with a few glitches. Certainly standard
survey tools do involve a GPS, perhaps with some improved resolution from
ground stations.

In all these cases, using Google maps or similar aerial providers seems the
least likely approach.

Jerry

On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 at 18:50, Steven Hirschorn <steven.hirschorn at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Yes, that is what I meant - my understanding of the Google licence terms
> last time I read them was that you could not use any georeferences
> generated on a Google Map in any other product. Happy to be corrected if
> they've relaxed the terms. I was speculating that if Hackney council
> displayed the geopoints on a Leaflet Map they may already have determined
> that Google weren't involved in creating the georeferences. Best to ask
> (but I find that's when the email thread dies!)
>
> On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 at 18:12, David Woolley <forums at david-woolley.me.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> On 16/08/2022 18:03, Steven Hirschorn wrote:
>> > Having said that, I just looked at the link and they're showing the
>> > locations on a Leaflet OSM map, which would already be a breach of the
>> > licence if the geopoints were generated via Google, I think, so maybe
>> > they can be imported?
>>
>> I don't think this would breach the OSM licence, as the database rights
>> are claimed on the database, not on renderings.  One is certainly
>> allowed to do on the fly combined renderings, although I guess stored
>> renderings might be different.
>>
>> It might be a breach of the Google licence, of course.
>>
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