[Talk-GB] LiDAR in the UK

[Owen Boswarva]

I don't have any more up-to-date information about licensing of the NI
data, but I agree with the comments from Jerry and Rob.

All of the LiDAR datasets available on the OpenDataNI site at
https://www.opendatani.gov.uk/dataset?tags=LIDAR are available for re-use
under the Open Government Licence, with only standard attribution
requirements.

For the LIDAR - Belfast City 2006 data, the required attribution statement
seems to be: "Belfast City LIDAR is provided by the Department for
Infrastructure (Rivers) with the permission of the copyright owner, Cyient
Europe Limited, and licensed under the Open Government Licence v3.0".

For the other datasets, there is no attribution statement specified, so the
fallback is the standard wording from the OGL. However, in the interests of
making the provenance transparent, I would probably add the name of the
publishing organisation, e.g.
"Contains public sector information [from Land & Property Services (LPS)]
licensed under the Open Government Licence v3.0."

Owen

On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 at 19:48, SK53 <sk53.osm at gmail.com> wrote:

Historically there have always been some attribution & other usage
> restrictions with data from Land and Property Services. It's several years
> since I last used any of this data in earnest, but at some point OSM-IE
> were having quite detailed discussions about making some of them usable by
> OSM (e.g., road names), but at least for map data there's probably an
> element of keeping in step with OSI as well.
>
> In general then, I'd tend to exercise extra care over some of this data,
> and statements such as this one "attribution statement noted in ‘River
> Basin LIDAR - Belfast City- Note.pdf’, acknowledging Cyient Europe Ltd,
> must be included" (the actual text in that document under "attribution
> statement" doesn't appear to be one). A quick scan over the other Lidar
> datasets suggests they have fewer potential gotchas, but the DSMs are
> really quite old. One good use case would be mapping streams through
> woodland (most of the interesting remaining woods in NI are in incised
> river valleys).
>
> Owen Boswarva may be a bit more up-to-date on the status of geospatial
> Open Data in Northern Ireland.
>
> Jerry
>
>
> On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 at 18:12, Rob Nickerson <rob.j.nickerson at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Regarding the NI attribution text: I'm reading this as simply the
>> statement that they'd like you to use. This is entirely in line with the
>> OGL licence (which we know is good for use in OSM) as the OGL reads:
>>
>> *"If the Information Provider does not provide a specific attribution
>> statement, you must use the following:*
>>
>> * Contains public sector information licensed under the Open Government
>> Licence v3.0."*
>>
>> So yeah, in my view it's just giving the "specific attribution statement"
>> and not altering the normal OGL with extra restrictions.
>>
>> https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/3/
>>
>> Thanks
>> Rob
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