[Talk-GB] Pavements (footways/sidewalks) mapped as pedestrian areas AND footways

[Mateusz Konieczny]

We already have area:highway=footway for marking areas of footways/sidewalks
where it is not a pedestrian square.

People are often mistagging asidewalks/footways tagged as areas as pedestrian squares 
to force rendering.

( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Mistagging_for_the_renderer )


Dec 26, 2022, 14:37 by rob.j.nickerson at gmail.com:

> It's be happy to support anyone who wants to have a go at formalising a better tag for these cases. I can help you through the steps (e.g. wiki documentation, tag presets in ID and JOSM, etc). Be prepared for a long journey as these things take ages but if you're up for it, and willing to do the work, I can help from a coaching / mentoring point of view.
>
> Thanks
> Rob
>
> P.s. on your real world distinction go with street. The threshold for squares should be high (minimum: locals must refer to the square by some name)
>
>
> On Mon, 26 Dec 2022, 13:21 Edward Catmur, <> ecatmur at googlemail.com> > wrote:
>
>> In the real world, the distinction between pedestrian streets and squares is not so clear cut. Streets widen out and the boundary between a street and the square it leads into is often absent on the ground. Building footprints do not always cleanly delineate the edge of the street or plaza, since there can be setbacks and overhangs.
>>
>> If a different tag would be better, presumably the problem is that it isn't well known and or supported? Perhaps it would be better to allocate effort to sorting that out? 
>>
>> On Mon, 26 Dec 2022, 13:46 Rob Nickerson, <>> rob.j.nickerson at gmail.com>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with Andy Townsend here. I believe that highway=pedestrian is a terribly misused tag. On the wiki the short description is "Roads mainly / exclusively for pedestrians". I therefore only use it for centrelines along pedestrianised streets or genuine squares. 
>>>
>>> Using it as an area along a pedestrianised street is wrong in my opinion. Either use a tag like Andy suggested or don't map the area at all (mapping the buildings on either side and the Centreline of the pedestrianised street is sufficient).
>>>
>>> Using it as areas for pavements (as in this thread) is clearly wrong in my mind.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps
>>> Rob
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