[Talk-GB] Non-intuitive addresses

Colin Smale colin.smale at xs4all.nl
Sat Feb 12 14:40:31 UTC 2022


Here we go again....

There was a big discussion in December 2020 about UK addressing which you can find here in its entirety:

https://www.mail-archive.com/talk-gb@openstreetmap.org/msg20175.html

There's a discussion about "substreets" and "dependent thoroughfares" starting here:

https://www.mail-archive.com/talk-gb@openstreetmap.org/msg20202.html

Don't forget there is reasonably broad agreement that OSM uses *postal addresses* in cases where they conflict with addresses to locate or identify a premises. When addressing a letter to Abbots Walk, Royal Mail say you can omit the main street name if you are pushed for space.


> On 02/12/2022 3:16 PM Tom Crocker <tomcrockermail at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Sat, 12 Feb 2022, 13:00 Mark Goodge, <mark at good-stuff.co.uk mailto:mark at good-stuff.co.uk > wrote:
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> > On 12/02/2022 12:17, Tom Crocker wrote:
> > >
> > > For the addresses I would suggest addr:place=Abbots Walk as that
> > > *should* work with existing tools.
> > 
> > That seems reasonable, although addr:place seems a little controversial
> > in these parts at the moment :-)
> > 
> 
> Well indeed. I figured I didn't need to say that other opinions were available!
> 
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> > > For the label, what I usually do is split out the section of
> > > landuse=* and add the name to that, which seems reasonable and works
> > > for most renderers (I use the cadastral parcels/fence lines for the
> > > area).
> > 
> > That's pretty much what I'd planned to do, so it's handy to have that
> > confirmed as having been used elsewhere.
> > 
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> I got the idea from discussions on nominatim's issue tracker. Here's some examples:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/991632705
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1011275704
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/833172649#map=16/53.8799/-1.7196
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1020679508
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> > > I have however been thinking about proposing place=building_complex
> > > (or something) for these sort of situations. This would be
> > > particularly useful when the landuse is mixed, and is a perhaps more
> > > appropriate tag. It would fit between city_block and plot in our
> > > current hierarchy.
> > 
> > Yes, that seems like a sensible suggestion. it would be particularly
> > useful where an urban building has both commercial and residential use.
> > 
> 
> Great. I'd better think about getting it moving then.
> 
> Tom
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