[Talk-GB] OSM UK address project: tags - Updated guidance

[Ken Kilfedder]

On Wed, 5 Jan 2022, at 3:14 PM, Simon Poole wrote:
> IMHO still -far- too complicated.
> 
> addr:substreet is not necessary simply always use addr:street for the street the house number is relative is too, or addr:place if the house number is relative to a non-street.
> 

A agree with this, and with Simon's analysis in general.   I just wanted to add, that I'd also apply this logic to terraces.  If there is an Albion Terrace with housenumbers that related to it; then the correct tagging in OSM ought to be addr:street=Albion Terrace, with an optional addr:parentstreet if needed.

I think Simon is correct in general because adding a tier that's logically between addr:housenumber and addr:street (e.g. addr:substreet) means that we will inevitably end up with two different buildings that are both correctly tagged addr:housenumber=2 and addr:street=Festive Road.  (The fact that one of them is also tagged with addr:substreet=Acacia Walk would be missed by data consumers and validators without a total rewrite of loads of OSM tooling.)


> If there is a further level of (non-conventional) localisation required use
> 
> addr:parentXXXXXX (just one value, but neutral if it refers to a street or place).
> 
> addr:hamlet, addr:village: addr:town and addr:suburb all seem to be the same thing in the hierarchy, choose one and stick with it.
> 
> So that would boil down to (leaving building internal references away)
> 
> addr:housename 
> 
> addr:housenumber
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> addr:street / addr:place
> 
> addr:parentsomething (where necessary)
> 
> addr:suburb (where necessary)
> 
> addr:city
> 
> addr:postcode
> 
> That's 8 tags instead of 13 and introduces just -one- new tag instead of 5, something that is much more reasonable to ask consumers to do.
> 
> Simon
> 
> Am 01.01.2022 um 14:01 schrieb Rob Nickerson:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Happy new year to all :-)
>> 
>> Thank you for all the comments received in regards to the addr:* tags and how to apply them to map addresses in the United Kingdom. I shared some thoughts on how to resolve the comments at the time (e.g. my 22 December email [1]). This email is just to confirm that I have now found the time to make all the updates to the wiki page. You can view the updated page at:
>> 
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Addresses_in_the_United_Kingdom
>> 
>> I will keep an eye on the replies here and on the wiki Discussion page so feel free to post to either place should you have feedback.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> *Rob*
>> 
>> [1] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2021-December/028267.html
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