[Talk-GB] Map styles and map servers (not really the Rossendale Way any more)

[Adam Hoyle]

Hi Mark

Possibly also relevant - there is work underway to produce an American specific rendering, demo here: https://zelonewolf.github.io/openstreetmap-americana and code here: https://github.com/ZeLonewolf/openstreetmap-americana/

There is discussion around it on the OSMUS Slack in the #american-map-style channel, which is here: https://osmus.slack.com/ (I don’t entirely recall how I signed up, but possibly via this: https://osmus.slack.com/signup).

Note: I’m not involved in any way, I just noticed it being discussed.

Best,

Adam
On 24 Jan 2022, 21:53 +0000, Mark Goodge <mark at good-stuff.co.uk>, wrote:
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> On 24/01/2022 19:44, Andy Townsend wrote:
> > On 24/01/2022 19:01, Mark Goodge wrote:
> > >
> > > The cost isn't the issue, a least to begin with (I'm not sure how well
> > > it scales under load, and what the implications would be for that). I
> > > have looked at running my own OSM tileserver, and from a sysadmin
> > > perspective, there's nothing prohibitive about that. But the styling
> > > is another issue; I've had a look at OSM Carto and, frankly, it makes
> > > my head hurt even trying to comprehend it. The Switch2OSM
> > > documentation itself isn't particularly complimentary about Carto,
> > > describing it as a compromise and complicated.
> >
> > I suspect that I might have written that bit :)
> >
> > When Richard set up the switch2osm site initially there was discussion
> > about what map style would be best to feature.  My recollection (and I
> > could be wrong because it was all a _very_ long time ago) was that he
> > favoured a simpler style that users could modify easily such as the old
> > OSM Bright raster style, and I was worried that it there were enough
> > issues with it (such as rendering everything with a "name" tag as that
> > name on the map) that it would need significant effort to get to the
> > point were we could really feature it.
>
> Actually, a good starting point for a UK style would be the old Carto
> style before it was internationalised to match the road colour
> conventions adopted by Bing and Google.
>
> > > > * as an example, map.atownsend.org.uk costs me < £20 per month, so if
> > > > you split the monthly running cost between a few people it's less
> > > > than the price of a beer at a monthly OSM meetup.
> > >
> > > What hardware (or VM) spec is that running on?
> > A Hetzner CX41 (see https://www.hetzner.com/cloud ).  If you wanted to
> > pay a bit less a CX31, would probably work for just GB or UK.
>
> I presume that memory is the key, here?
>
> > > There was some talk on this list a while back about creating a UK
> > > style. But that seems to have gone quiet. I'd be interested in getting
> > > involved if enough other people wanted to resurrect it.
> >
> > Nick Whitelegg did some work at
> > https://github.com/orgs/osmuk/repositories a few years ago now - see
> > https://github.com/osmuk/website_experimental has a bit of an
> > explanation.  I'm happy to help with answering questions with map styles
> > etc. but can't really commit to "site development or maintenance" - but
> > I bet that there are lots of people on this list who do that as a day
> > job and would be more than willing to help!
>
> I'll take a look at some of those, when time permits, ta.
>
> Mark
>
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