[Talk-GB] Historic England datasets

[Robert Skedgell]

I've used the data from Historic England, mostly in Newham, to add tags 
to features already in OSM. For ones which hadn't been mapped, I've 
either surveyed them before adding or added a note.

I imported the data into PostGIS, with a view translating fields to OSM 
keys and adding the local authority district for filtering and 
extraction as JOSM-friendly GeoJSON files.

The mapping I have used is:
ref:GB:nhle		listentry
heritage:operator	'Historic England'
historic		'building' (default, some features have more appropriate values)
heritage		2
listed_status		'Grade ' + grade
he:inscription_date	listdate
heritage:website	hyperlink

NB The table at the end of the wiki page for heritage probably needs to 
be updated to bring it into line with the more recently edited tagging 
suggestions for the UK.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:heritage

If you'd like me to email you the data for a particular area as .geojson 
or .osm, I'd be happy to help.

On 04/07/2022 11:17, Nathan Case wrote:
>  >What are you adding exactly?
> 
>  >some id linking this dataset with OSM?
> 
> I've been adding tags such as "listed_status", "heritage", 
> "heritage:operator" and "HE_ref" to buildings which are already mapped 
> or that I map using aerial imagery. The values for these tags have come 
> from the Historic England heritage website. I'm not copying over the 
> listing's detailed descriptions or anything like that.
> 
> Those fields are all given in the OGL licenced datasets and it seems OSM 
> acknowledges the dataset here: 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#National_Heritage_List_for_England_(Historic_England) 
> so I think that's OK.
> 
> I was just wondering if there was a layer to help us improve mapping 
> (rather than me having to keep the HE website open). I mainly use iD but 
> maybe I'll look into the JOSM idea Berrely suggests.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> On 04/07/2022 10:51, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB wrote:
>> "adding the Historic England reference to a few listed buildings recently"
>>
>> What are you adding exactly?
>>
>> some id linking this dataset with OSM? If yes, then as far as I know, 
>> it is far more
>> likely to be fine even if dataset is not license compatible
>> (it would be different if things would be copied from it).
>>
>> For example it is fine (as far as I know) to link wikipedia article
>> with wikipedia tag, even if such article has things not importable to OSM
>> like maps on incompatible licences.
>>
>> warning: not a lawyer
>>
>> (let me know if above is not true)
>>
>> 4 lip 2022, 10:21 od nathancase at outlook.com:
>>
>>     I've been adding the Historic England reference to a few listed
>>     buildings recently and then got worried that it might not be OSM
>>     compatible licence wise.
>>