[Talk-GB] Mapping School Streets

Stephen Colebourne scolebourne at joda.org
Mon Jul 18 06:02:09 UTC 2022


SW London uses `motor_vehicle:conditional=no @ ` and
`traffic_intervention=school_street`:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/894744773

You can use `traffic_intervention:website` to link to the entry in the
gazette: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/862362672

{`traffic_intervention` has been discussed on this list before, and
now has 655 uses mostly `school_street` but also `modal_filter` and
`bus_gate`)

Stephen


On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 at 23:05, Rob Nickerson <rob.j.nickerson at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Maybe. I'm no expert when it comes to OSM relation tagging but know that they are misused at times so thought wise to query it here. I'm still not convinced but won't loose any sleep over it. Just remember that adding relations makes it harder for other mappers.
>
> Also, nobody has yet answered Steve's original question of how to tag them. type=restriction is not correct as that is for turn restrictions (hence the JOSM error) and Paul's example using type=route doesn't feel right to me either.
>
> A look at TagInfo doesn't show any obvious candidate: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/type#values
>
> Thanks
> Rob
>
> On Sun, 17 Jul 2022, 22:32 Paul Berry, <pmberry2007 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> If the scheme has a name, like this one* I mapped not long ago, then I think it's fine to map it as a relation. All the associated ways are related, after all.
>>
>> *https://osm.org/relation/12024347
>>
>> Regards,
>> Paul
>>
>> On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 at 18:03, Steven Hirschorn <steven.hirschorn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Rob,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the reply. I was thinking for two reasons:
>>> 1) because the hours of operation might change, or the whole scheme may be scrapped, so a relation would allow that to be changed in one place rather than manually looking for any ways that are covered by a scheme
>>> 2) because it would be handy to have an identifier for a particular scheme
>>> They can get more complex than the straight-line way I used earlier, such as this one (if I got the Overpass query right)
>>> https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1kbv
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 at 17:49, Rob Nickerson <rob.j.nickerson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don't think that's the right case to use a relation for. For example, we don't put speed limits in a relation so why put this form of restriction in one?
>>>>
>>>> See Usage section of https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Rob
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