[Talk-GB] Fwd: Dowles Brook, Wyre Forest

[Edward Catmur]

It's hardly unheard of for a watercourse to change its name in its upper
reaches. I would suppose the EA consider Baveney Brook (sic) to be the main
stream at the point of its confluence with the Lem Brook; they're best
placed to make that judgement (on the basis of flow rates, etc.)

As for the true source, the OS (non-copyright / out of copyright mapping)
stop bothering to name the Baveney Brook much above where it crosses
Baveney Lane, but if I were to choose a head source I'd go for the
northernmost of those you listed, or possibly even the next clockwise:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/42741509



On Sun, 1 May 2022 at 14:26, Andy Mabbett <andy at pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:

> Forwarding this, as I never got an answer on the WM list; maybe
> someone further afield can help?
>
> There are other unresolved queries regarding streams and brooks in
> that list's archives, for example:
>
>
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb-westmidlands/2021-January/thread.html
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Andy Mabbett <andy at pigsonthewing.org.uk>
> Date: Sat, 8 May 2021 at 16:17
> Subject: Dowles Brook, Wyre Forest
> To: talk-gb-westmidlands <Talk-gb-westmidlands at openstreetmap.org>
>
>
> According to the Environment Agency source cited by Wikipedia:
>
>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowles_Brook
>
> Dowles Brook is 15.5 km long.
>
> I've just created a relation for our mapping of it, and it only totals 8km:
>
>    https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/12687867#map=13/52.3852/-2.3677
>
> The origin, at the western end, is apparently this node:
>
>    https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6314143144
>
> where the source seems to be the convergence of two other waterways:
> Raveney Brook and Lem Brook.
>
> Can anyone explain the discrepancy? Is one of the latter two waterways
> also known as Dowles Brook? Or labelled in error?
>
> I have one source that gives "The Dowles Brook flows ... from its
> source at Bagginswood, Shropshire [SO6881]", but a) it's not a
> particularly reliable source and b) there are three streams that start
> near that location, each of which eventually flows into what we have
> as Dowles Brook, but are unnamed on OSM:
>
>    https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/42741502
>
>    https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/42741508
>
>    https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/42741511
>
>
> --
> Andy Mabbett
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> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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