[Talk-GB] City of Bath x2

Dave F davefoxfac63 at btinternet.com
Mon May 2 12:04:53 UTC 2022


Bath appears to be a bit of an anomaly. It's one of the few UK's cities 
whose boundary is clearly defined being surrounded by admin=10 
boundaries, yet isn't one itself. It's more of a subset of Bath & North 
East Somerset local authority.

https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1i6k

The city boundary formed by those other boundaries is used by B&NES, not 
only for the WHS, but also for data production such as population, 
welfare, & transport etc. There are times when money is allocated as X 
amount to be spent in the city, Y in the rest of B&NES.

It's also an enclaved parliamentary constituency, although not mapped as 
one in OSM.

If there's a better tag to describe it, I'd be happy to change it.

DaveF

On 02/05/2022 09:54, Russ McDermid wrote:
> Ok, sorry I got it wrong.
> Yes, the relation was added a long time ago - I thought the 
> Wiki advised against using place=city on areas and nodes, but if this 
> is correct, I'll know for the future.
> I'm not going to argue on Bath's admin, I had enough problems when my 
> Mother was the Deputy Mayor.
> Consider this query closed.
> Russ.
>
> On Mon, 2 May 2022 at 09:38, Tom Hughes <tom at compton.nu> wrote:
>
>     On 02/05/2022 07:08, Russ McDermid wrote:
>
>     > Morning all,
>     > Making maps for my Garmin, I stumbled on the fact that the City
>     of Bath
>     > appears twice. ... close to  my heart as I grew up there !
>     > Once as a relation and once as a node:
>     >
>     > 1.
>     https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5342409#map=13/51.3784/-2.3588
>     >
>     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5342409#map=13/51.3784/-2.3588>
>     > 2. https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/19472
>     > <https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/19472>01
>     >
>     > Presume the first needs correcting as was put in by a newish
>     mapper,
>     > probably attempting to add new languages to City names, but I'm
>     sure I
>     > can't just delete the relation.
>
>     I'm not sure why you think it was put in by a newish mapper - it is
>     seven years old and was added by a well known member of the community
>     and has been edited 16 times since.
>
>     It also has the second object (the node) as the admin_centre member
>     which is as expected unless you want to argue that Bath can't have
>     an admin_centre as it has no administration.
>
>     Tom
>
>     -- 
>     Tom Hughes (tom at compton.nu)
>     http://compton.nu/
>
>
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