[Talk-GB] City of Bath x2

[Andrew Hain]

There are quite a lot of towns like that, even if you ignore boroughs wholly without parishes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unparished_area

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Andrew

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From: Dave F via Talk-GB <talk-gb at openstreetmap.org>
Sent: 02 May 2022 13:04
To: talk-gb at openstreetmap.org <talk-gb at openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] City of Bath x2

Bath appears to be a bit of an anomaly. It's one of the few UK's cities whose boundary is clearly defined being surrounded by admin=10 boundaries, yet isn't one itself. It's more of a subset of Bath & North East Somerset local authority.

 https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1i6k

The city boundary formed by those other boundaries is used by B&NES, not only for the WHS, but also for data production such as population, welfare, & transport etc. There are times when money is allocated as X amount to be spent in the city, Y in the rest of B&NES.

It's also an enclaved parliamentary constituency, although not mapped as one in OSM.

If there's a better tag to describe it, I'd be happy to change it.

DaveF

On 02/05/2022 09:54, Russ McDermid wrote:
Ok, sorry I got it wrong.
Yes, the relation was added a long time ago - I thought the Wiki advised against using place=city on areas and nodes, but if this is correct, I'll know for the future.
I'm not going to argue on Bath's admin, I had enough problems when my Mother was the Deputy Mayor.
Consider this query closed.
Russ.

On Mon, 2 May 2022 at 09:38, Tom Hughes <tom at compton.nu<mailto:tom at compton.nu>> wrote:
On 02/05/2022 07:08, Russ McDermid wrote:

> Morning all,
> Making maps for my Garmin, I stumbled on the fact that the City of Bath
> appears twice. ... close to  my heart as I grew up there !
> Once as a relation and once as a node:
>
> 1. https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5342409#map=13/51.3784/-2.3588
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5342409#map=13/51.3784/-2.3588>
> 2. https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/19472
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/19472>01
>
> Presume the first needs correcting as was put in by a newish mapper,
> probably attempting to add new languages to City names, but I'm sure I
> can't just delete the relation.

I'm not sure why you think it was put in by a newish mapper - it is
seven years old and was added by a well known member of the community
and has been edited 16 times since.

It also has the second object (the node) as the admin_centre member
which is as expected unless you want to argue that Bath can't have
an admin_centre as it has no administration.

Tom

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