[Talk-GB] [Talk-scotland] Tagging of roads with adjacent named terraces

Peter Neale nealepb at yahoo.co.uk
Sat May 7 17:35:23 UTC 2022


A quick scan of a street imagery app (that I won't name) shows a name board for a restaurant.  The website of that restaurant shows it address as "20 Leopold Place, Edinburgh..."
So, should it be "addr:street=Leopold Place"; "addr:parentstreet=London Road"?
Regards,Peter
(PeterPan99) 

    On Saturday, 7 May 2022, 17:51:33 BST, Donald Noble <drnoble at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Thanks for the opinion Robert, good to hear your thoughts. The question is what would you tag? There is not a single outline, but rather 9 separate buildings that together make up Leopold Place, plus there are 18 address nodes too. Combining these into a single item would lose detail, and the wiki page on buildings explicitly suggests mapping each house in a terrace. Naming each building separately also seems wrong. Perhaps a surrounding landuse=residential area?
Cheers, Donald
On Sat, 7 May 2022 at 17:13, Robert Weetman <robert.wtman.88 at gmail.com> wrote:

Not sure if it helps to add this kind of response, but I'm going to anyway... 
It feels instinctively to me to be that the obvious tagging should be with Leopold Place as a building name. I imagine this causing issues with actual maps, but we're going to face this issue anyway. And we should fall back on the rule about not tagging for any particular rendering.
I guess there's no harm in the addr:substreet addition too.
Just my twopennethworth as they say.
Robert

On Sat, 7 May 2022, 16:31 Donald Noble, <drnoble at gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Alan, As I understood addr:substreet was more in conjunction with address nodes on buildings, not tagging the road ways, as this loses the spatial placement and doesn't work when both sides of a road have different names buildings/terraces. I suppose we could go with addr:substreet:left and :right, but I am not sure this is helpful.

Donald
On Sat, 7 May 2022 at 16:03, Alan Mackie <aamackie at gmail.com> wrote:

I think in recent discussions the preference was for these addresses to be tagged `addr:substreet`, as in a level of addressing "below" street level in the hierarchy. The building names themselves can also be applied to the buildings with the usual tags. 
Sorry for the double response, forgot to reply all.
On Sat, 7 May 2022, 14:51 Donald Noble, <drnoble at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
Just wondering if there is any consensus/guidance on tagging of streets with adjacent named buildings/terraces. There are quite a few of these in Scotland, and until now these have been tagged with the main name of the road, and name:left/name:right as appropriate for the building/terrace name.
Recently a mapper has changed a couple of these so the (minor) name appears on the map, and they do not appear to be local. Before reverting this, I just wanted to reach out to the wider community.
This road is called London Road, but the buildings to the north are called Leopold Place, see https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=932836447528898 which shows both signs (although a bit blurry)GinaroZ left a note https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/3087279 regarding https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/116967047

Thanks for your thoughts on this,Cheers, Donald 
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