[Talk-GB] A moutain range in Cornwall??
Mark Goodge
mark at good-stuff.co.uk
Tue Feb 13 14:23:09 UTC 2024
On 13/02/2024 13:32, Dave Dunford wrote:
> Definitions of "mountain" based on elevation seem to be apocryphal, as
> far as I can tell. I've had several debates on Wikipedia with people who
> claim that "the Ordnance Survey defines anything over 2000ft as a
> mountain", and otherwise reputable sources such as the BBC and the
> Guardian repeat the same claim, but no-one can produce any official
> expression of this convention in any OS publication. "The Englishman Who
> Went up a Hill but Came down a Mountain" notwithstanding, I think it's a
> myth.
OS doesn't define mountains because OS doesn't define anything. Like
OSM, OS maps what is there and labels it according to what other people
call it, either canonically if there is an official name or colloquially
if not. But OS is on record as accepting the traditional convention that
a mountain in the UK starts at 2,000ft (610m) and will therefore label
it as such unless there is a reason to do otherwise. See, for example,
this (now archived) blog post:
https://web.archive.org/web/20210211221249/https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/blog/2016/09/calf-top-englands-last-mountain/
More specifically, the government does define a mountain for the purpose
of open access and rights of way as being land above 600m:
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/37/section/1
But, apart from that one item of legislation, there's no official
definition of a mountain in the UK, and there are various different
definitions used by hillwalkers and climbers based on different values
for elevation and prominence. As far as OSM goes, I think we should
broadly stick with the convention followed by OS, because it's well
known and relatively uncontroversial. But that doesn't mean we can't tag
something else as a mountain if there's good evidence that local usage
calls it a mountain. As always, it's what's on the ground that counts.
Mark
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