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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">This is really good news and thank you
      Rob for flagging it.  Thanks also to the unknown folks at OS who
      have been working on this ... it follows through on a promise made
      to me in 2010 that they would look at.<br>
      <br>
      As cautioned by Rob, do wait until  <a
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href="http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/business-and-government/licensing/using-creating-data-with-os-products/os-opendata.html">http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/business-and-government/licensing/using-creating-data-with-os-products/os-opendata.html</a>
      updates before jumping into CodePoint data with abandon ... it is
      from a not very open friendly third party and the OGL does allow
      exemptions for that.<br>
      <br>
      I believe also that this will be good news for ?English Heritage, 
      (sorry, I live in Sweden),  data users as it removes an ambiguity
      over which of their data is covered by OGL and which by the now
      retired OS OpenData license.<br>
      <br>
      On the change from OGL 2 to OGL 3, I am a bit less enthusiastic. 
      I sat down with a large cup of coffee, compared them line by line
      and made the notes below.  The thing to highlight is the change to
      the "You" definition which does possibly shift some of concern
      about the OS Opendata license into the OGL itself. The usual
      caveat: IANAL.<br>
      <br>
      Mike<br>
      <br>
      The non-trivial changes between OGL 2 and OGL 3 are as follows:<br>
      <br>
      Insertion:<br>
      <br>
      "You must, where you do any of the above:  acknowledge the source
      of the Information by including <span resource="[cc:Attribution]"><b>or
          linking to</b> </span>any attribution statement specified by
      the Information Provider(s) and, where possible, provide a link to
      this licence; "<br>
      <br>
      This is good news.<br>
      <br>
      Additional wording:<br>
      <br>
      "If you are using Information from several Information Providers
      and listing multiple attributions is not practical in your product
      or application, you may include a URI or hyperlink to a resource
      that contains the required attribution statements."<br>
      <br>
      This is good news, it follows practise that we have set up in
      OpenStreetMap.<br>
      <br>
      'You',<b> 'you' and 'your'</b> means the natural or legal person,
      or body of persons corporate or incorporate, acquiring rights <b>in
        the Information (whether the Information is obtained directly
        from the Licensor or otherwise)</b> under this licence.<br>
      <br>
      This could potentially imply that users of OpenStreetMap data for
      the UK, for example to make a map, might have to additionally
      attribute the OS, (or other bodies). Just being paranoid here but
      I think it is worth following up.  On the other hand in both OGL 2
      and OGL 3 is this explicit statement:<br>
      <br>
      "These terms are compatible with the Creative Commons Attribution
      License 4.0 and the Open Data Commons Attribution License"<br>
      <br>
      The wording of the latter is at
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/by/1-0/">http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/by/1-0/</a><br>
      <br>
      Since the ODBL and Attribution License share common ancestry on
      attribution drafting, then quite likely we are compatible too by
      extension.  But it needs some one to sit down and compare both
      licenses. Apologies but I lack time these days.<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      On 18/02/2015 19:41, Owen Boswarva wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">(I should clarify that by "compatible" I meant
        forward-compatible rather than interoperable. OGL data is
        suitable as an input to a OdBL dataset, but not vice versa.)
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        <div>-- Owen (@owenboswarva)</div>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On 18 February 2015 at 18:04, Jo
              Walsh <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:metazool@fastmail.net" target="_blank">metazool@fastmail.net</a>></span>
              wrote:</div>
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                  <div>I asked @owenboswarva on Twitter who is an active
                    voice whom i trust on open government data issues,
                    and he said this:<br>
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                  <div>"IMO the only significant difference is v3
                    explicitly permits re-users to list multiple
                    attributions via a URI or link.<br>
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                  <div>...the differences are mostly just tidier syntax.
                    If you are happy v2 is compatible with OdBL (IMO it
                    is) then v3 is also."<br>
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                  <div>zx<br>
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                    <div>--<br>
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                    <div>Jo Walsh<br>
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                    <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:metazool@fastmail.net"
                        target="_blank">metazool@fastmail.net</a><br>
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                  <div>On Wed, Feb 18, 2015, at 12:04 AM, Rob Nickerson
                    wrote:<br>
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                          <div>On 17 February 2015 at 23:57, Matthijs
                            Melissen <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                                href="mailto:info@matthijsmelissen.nl"
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                            wrote:<br>
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                            I could imagine that OGL-3 has imported OS
                            ODL's clause on<br>
                            sublicensing that caused incompatibility
                            with ODbL, which would make<br>
                            OGL-3 incompatible with ODbL.Do we have
                            confirmation that this is not<br>
                            the case, i.e. that OGL-3 and ODbL are
                            compatible?<br>
                            <span><span style="color:rgb(136,136,136)"><br>
                                -- Matthijs</span></span></blockquote>
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                      <div>All the OGL versions are online. A comparison
                        of v2 and v3 shows nothing to worry me.
                        Hopefully Robert W will chip in as he's clued up
                        on all this.<br>
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                      <div>Version 3:<br>
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                      <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/3/"
                          target="_blank">http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/3/</a><br>
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                      <div>Version 2:<br>
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                      <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/2/"
                          target="_blank">http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/2/</a><br>
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