[Talk-hr] source = TOPO 25 VGI BEOGRAD

[Valent Turkovic]

On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 12:14:32 +0200, SilverSpace wrote:

> Za karte čisto sumljam  da su legalne za crtanje.


Evo jos jedan odgovor od srpskogcrva koji sam proslijedio na legal listu. 
Kaze da nema vremena citati legal listu?!? MIslim stvarno...

"	
Okay, even if I dont have time (this is the reason for not going on the 
mailing list, but you could give me the adress to subscribe to them), I 
am going to explain it to you:

The maps were made in the 1974-1980 years by the "MILITARY GEOGRAPHICAL 
INSTITUTE" of Belgrade in "SOCIALISTIC FEDERATIVE REPUBLIC OF YUGOSLAVIA"

1992, Yugoslavia crashed. New countries were born: Slovenia, Croatia, 
Bosnia and Hercegovina, Montenegro, Makedonia (F.Y.R.O.M.) and Serbia 
(and others say also Kosovo).

Those maps were made by the military by them own, so something 
governmental. The inhabitants were buying that and its opend source as 
long the governement or the military says NO (and they said NO!!!!)

Since the new countries exist, the VGI has NO responsibility or right to 
create maps of those countries, as long as they dont give an order to do 
so (but the didn't!)

Those countries have their own geogrphical or geodesist institutes. So: 
the VGI is selling those OLD prints and they have still an copyright on 
reproduction of those papers, BUT NOT THE CONTAINED DATA !!! The VGI has 
only responsibility on the land of Serbia (nowadays) and there, of course 
I am NOT ALLOWED to use the datas!

I agree that it is a grey zone, but who will say that its illegal? In my 
case, I am working on Bosnia (and not Croatia anymore): The VGI cannot 
accuse, cause they have not the right on the datas, its an own country!

Bosnia has no right on the datas, cause they gave no order to be made.

those maps (the datas on them) are FREE (as long as you dont use it on 
Serbian terretory).

It is difficult to explain it for me in this language, but you can trust 
me, that I am right, and as normal, there are a lot of people, who think 
in an other way. Thinking is not enough. Knowing its better. I am working 
in a govermental company in germany, which is dealing with licenses and I 
have the knowledge. I was reading constitutions and I got in contact with 
the Bosnian governement and the serbian VGI. I bought those maps by my 
own from the VGI (yes, as a foreighner you can buy those maps, but not 
those which have datas of serbia on them).

Everything what I am making should be confirmed ot the place, I wil go 
there in next spring 2011. And I will look up with my GPS if the work, I 
did is correct.

You cannot do everything by using gps, e.g. Rivers, streams, power lines, 
forests, basins etc.

I hope you understand me and you agree with me or better you trust me, 
that I am not doing anything wrong.

Yours,

Leo"




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