[Talk-ht] [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Haiti Health Facilities Master List]]

Jean-Guilhem Cailton jgc at arkemie.com
Tue Feb 2 09:02:14 GMT 2010 

Nicolas,

Can't we rely on healthC_ID for later incorporation of other tags (which 
are mostly empty for now) ?

Isn't it a kind of emergency in itself to have the points, with precise 
location, name, and unambiguous ID in the OSM data base ? For use on the 
ground ?

"Any groups tracking health facilities should make sure to incorporate 
this identifier to enable unambiguous sharing/merging of data between 
groups."

Regards,

Jean-Guilhem

-------- Message original --------
Sujet : 	Re: [Talk-ht] [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Haiti Health Facilities 
Master List]
Date : 	Tue, 2 Feb 2010 09:33:09 +0100
De : 	nicolas chavent <nicolas.chavent at gmail.com>
Pour : 	Talk-ht at openstreetmap.org
Copie à : 	Jean-Guilhem Cailton <jgc at arkemie.com>
Références : 	<4B67DF87.1000707 at arkemie.com>



Hi there

Thanks Jean Guilhem for forwarding this post on this fundamental asset, 
before embarking into any bulk upload and exposing ourselves to double 
risk of duplication and data losses , we shall hear back from Kate 
Chapman who had been involved in the work of the group making this 
resource available and on conflating it with the OSM data base.

We shall also look at the semantic aspect of this conflation work and 
make sure the tags we will be setting for the HFacs description besides 
the Unifying Unique ID set by the Ministère de la Santé Publique et de 
la Population (MSPP) are interoperable with the ones used in the World 
Health Organization (Geneva) and PAHO (Pan American World Health 
Organization).
Since both organizations are envisaging to use the osm platform to 
manage this Health Facility layer at the condition of relying on 
interoperable tags.

I'll be reverting to the group soon with the "final" list of proposed 
values, a first unfortunately incomplete set is readable on the HT wiki
URL
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags#Humanitarian_Data_Model_1.6_.28these_will_be_mapped_to_OSM_tagging.29

Later then
Best to all
N.
   


On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton <jgc at arkemie.com 
<mailto:jgc at arkemie.com>> wrote:

    Hi,

    Could someone help automatically importing this list into OSM ?
    (At least X, Y, name, healthC_ID, for 1267 points)

    I could help to do some cleaning up with the points that might
    already be present in OSM.

    Thanks,

    Jean-Guilhem
    (knowing JOSM, but no automatic import tool (yet ?))
    (jgc on irc #osm, #flossk)


    -------- Message original --------
    Sujet : 	[CrisisMappers] Haiti Health Facilities Master List
    Date : 	Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:02:43 -0600
    De : 	David William Bitner <bitner at dbspatial.com>
    <mailto:bitner at dbspatial.com>
    Répondre à : 	crisismappers at googlegroups.com
    <mailto:crisismappers at googlegroups.com>
    Pour : 	crisismappers at googlegroups.com
    <mailto:crisismappers at googlegroups.com>



    The Haiti Health Facilities master list has now been made publicly
    available at
     http://sites.google.com/a/netspective.org/haiti-health-facilities/.
     This represents a combination of many efforts over the past two weeks.

    Of particular note is the unique identifier HealthC_ID which is
    based on the Ministère de la Santé Publique et de la Population
    (MSPP) of Haiti identifiers expanded to allow for temporary and
    transient health facilities.  Any groups tracking health facilities
    should make sure to incorporate this identifier to enable
    unambiguous sharing/merging of data between groups. This dataset is
    owned by the MSPP and is being maintained by WHO/PAHO and the
    website allows for submitting corrections and additions to keep the
    dataset up to date.

    David 
    Sahana Software Foundation

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On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton <jgc at arkemie.com 
<mailto:jgc at arkemie.com>> wrote:

    Hi,

    Could someone help automatically importing this list into OSM ?
    (At least X, Y, name, healthC_ID, for 1267 points)

    I could help to do some cleaning up with the points that might
    already be present in OSM.

    Thanks,

    Jean-Guilhem
    (knowing JOSM, but no automatic import tool (yet ?))
    (jgc on irc #osm, #flossk)


    -------- Message original --------
    Sujet : 	[CrisisMappers] Haiti Health Facilities Master List
    Date : 	Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:02:43 -0600
    De : 	David William Bitner <bitner at dbspatial.com>
    <mailto:bitner at dbspatial.com>
    Répondre à : 	crisismappers at googlegroups.com
    <mailto:crisismappers at googlegroups.com>
    Pour : 	crisismappers at googlegroups.com
    <mailto:crisismappers at googlegroups.com>



    The Haiti Health Facilities master list has now been made publicly
    available at
     http://sites.google.com/a/netspective.org/haiti-health-facilities/.
     This represents a combination of many efforts over the past two weeks.

    Of particular note is the unique identifier HealthC_ID which is
    based on the Ministère de la Santé Publique et de la Population
    (MSPP) of Haiti identifiers expanded to allow for temporary and
    transient health facilities.  Any groups tracking health facilities
    should make sure to incorporate this identifier to enable
    unambiguous sharing/merging of data between groups. This dataset is
    owned by the MSPP and is being maintained by WHO/PAHO and the
    website allows for submitting corrections and additions to keep the
    dataset up to date.

    David 
    Sahana Software Foundation

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