[Talk-ht] Talk-ht Digest, Vol 2, Issue 5

jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com
Tue Feb 2 11:34:34 GMT 2010 

I have checked everything into here:
http://github.com/h4ck3rm1k3/OSMHaiti

lets work together and share code and data.
mike


On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:21 PM, jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com
<jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com> wrote:
> Well I provided the source to the script, you can easily add tags like this :
>
>        print "<tag k='source:haiti_health_facilities' v='2005 MSPP database
> with geocodes' />\n";
>
> It would be better to have a source code repository for this.
> Better to have scripts with open source than just services.
>
> You can get values from the excel sheet from the data hash like this :
>        print "<tag k='haiti_health_facilities:id' v='$obj{HealthC_ID}' />\n";
>
> Anyway, if you need any scripting done, just let me know.
>
> mike
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:15 PM,  <talk-ht-request at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
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>>   1. Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Haiti Health  Facilities
>>      Master List]] (nicolas chavent)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 12:14:59 +0100
>> From: nicolas chavent <nicolas.chavent at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Talk-ht] [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Haiti Health
>>        Facilities Master List]]
>> To: talk-ht at openstreetmap.org
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>> Hi
>>
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags#Humanitarian_Data_Model_1.6_.28these_will_be_mapped_to_OSM_tagging.29
>>
>>
>> is the more stable
>> I'll get it updated with the recent attributes and values from the Shana -
>> PAHO release and what I did not finish entering in the wiki yeserday. In
>> interactions with WHO experts on how to best reconcile the 2 models
>>
>> Full agreement with refraining from any bulk upload at this stage and again
>> wait on Kate Chapman status while preparing any HFacs elements we can be
>> knowledgeable of to be able to move collectively efficienlty
>>
>> Best
>> N
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Karl Guggisberg
>> <karl.guggisberg at guggis.ch>wrote:
>>
>>>  Hi,
>>>
>>> here's another OSM file generated from the Health Facilities Master list
>>>    http://www.guggis.ch/haiti/HaitiHealthFacilities_Master.osm
>>>
>>> It includes more attributes than the list posted earlier. **Do not import
>>> this file automatically, though**. We should first agree on the set of OSM
>>> tags to be used and how the attributes in the master list are mapped onto
>>> them.
>>>
>>> What is the status of
>>>
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags#Humanitarian_Data_Model_1.6_.28these_will_be_mapped_to_OSM_tagging.29
>>>
>>> in particular in comparision with
>>>
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags#Draft_Ontology_for_healthcare_facilities
>>>
>>> Which of the two tagging schemes is more stable?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Karl
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 02.02.2010 11:05, schrieb nicolas chavent:
>>>
>>> Jean Guilhem and all.
>>>
>>> Just got back on-line: all the people who worked on the Health Facility
>>> themes want this thematic layer in osm as compehrensive in the most timely
>>> manner both:
>>> - (i) in terms of coverage of geo features: this is addressed by the data
>>> conflation work Kate Chapman and others including Sahan, US Health Govt, WHO
>>> and WHO-PAHO were involved in and which lead to this release by David.
>>> Kate was working on a conflation of this superset with OSM and I think we
>>> have to wait on her updating us on the status of the work to act
>>> collectively in an efficient manner. She'll be up soon (living in US Est
>>> Time).
>>> - (ii) in terms of semantic interoperability: this is being addressed
>>> through the data modeling and coordination work I an running on  this Health
>>> object with Kate Chapman, David Smith, Andrew Turner, WHO experts and
>>> Emergency coordinators, GIS Coordinators from GIS-NGOs deployed on the
>>> ground. I'll be integrating this last set of attributes elements from PAHO
>>> to the data model and issue a new version available on the wiki at
>>> URL
>>>
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags#Humanitarian_Data_Model_1.6_.28these_will_be_mapped_to_OSM_tagging.29
>>>
>>> This has to be seen as the formulation of field requirements for health
>>> facility geodata management in the perspective of OSM being closely tied to
>>> this new phase of the humanitarian response with more contents generated and
>>> shared from on the ground experts.
>>> Sahana through the portal shared by David allows for online data entry by
>>> Field Health practitioners.
>>> Kate ensured a way to refresh OSM attributes with this field contributed
>>> contents.
>>> On top of that WHO and PAHO are considering using directly OSM Editors to
>>> manage this data and relay on OSM DB for this operation at the condition of
>>> relying on interoperable HFacs tags.
>>> This is not small stuff and to allow this to happen again shortly, let's
>>> wait for Kate to give us a status of her work and once the attributes
>>> contents are on the wiki let's look at our tagging for this Health Fac layer
>>> which should not be too difficult since the OSM MapFeatures coverage of
>>> Health Care-related objects is limited.
>>> URL
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dhospital
>>>
>>> Hope this helps
>>> Best
>>> N
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton <jgc at arkemie.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nicolas,
>>>>
>>>> Can't we rely on healthC_ID for later incorporation of other tags (which
>>>> are mostly empty for now) ?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Isn't it a kind of emergency in itself to have the points, with precise
>>>> location, name, and unambiguous ID in the OSM data base ? For use on the
>>>> ground ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Any groups tracking health facilities should make sure to incorporate
>>>> this identifier to enable unambiguous sharing/merging of data between
>>>> groups."
>>>>
>>>>  Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Jean-Guilhem
>>>>
>>>> -------- Message original --------  Sujet : Re: [Talk-ht] [Fwd:
>>>> [CrisisMappers] Haiti Health Facilities Master List]  Date : Tue, 2 Feb
>>>> 2010 09:33:09 +0100  De : nicolas chavent <nicolas.chavent at gmail.com><nicolas.chavent at gmail.com>  Pour :
>>>> Talk-ht at openstreetmap.org  Copie ? :
>>>>
>>>>  Jean-Guilhem Cailton <jgc at arkemie.com> <jgc at arkemie.com>  R?f?rences :
>>>> <4B67DF87.1000707 at arkemie.com> <4B67DF87.1000707 at arkemie.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi there
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Jean Guilhem for forwarding this post on this fundamental asset,
>>>> before embarking into any bulk upload and exposing ourselves to double risk
>>>> of duplication and data losses , we shall hear back from Kate Chapman who
>>>> had been involved in the work of the group making this resource available
>>>> and on conflating it with the OSM data base.
>>>>
>>>> We shall also look at the semantic aspect of this conflation work and make
>>>> sure the tags we will be setting for the HFacs description besides the
>>>> Unifying Unique ID set by the Minist?re de la Sant? Publique et de la
>>>> Population (MSPP) are interoperable with the ones used in the World
>>>> Health Organization (Geneva) and PAHO (Pan American World Health
>>>> Organization).
>>>> Since both organizations are envisaging to use the osm platform to manage
>>>> this Health Facility layer at the condition of relying on interoperable
>>>> tags.
>>>>
>>>> I'll be reverting to the group soon with the "final" list of proposed
>>>> values, a first unfortunately incomplete set is readable on the HT wiki
>>>> URL
>>>>
>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags#Humanitarian_Data_Model_1.6_.28these_will_be_mapped_to_OSM_tagging.29
>>>>
>>>> Later then
>>>> Best to all
>>>> N.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton <jgc at arkemie.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Could someone help automatically importing this list into OSM ?
>>>>> (At least X, Y, name, healthC_ID, for 1267 points)
>>>>>
>>>>> I could help to do some cleaning up with the points that might already be
>>>>> present in OSM.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jean-Guilhem
>>>>> (knowing JOSM, but no automatic import tool (yet ?))
>>>>> (jgc on irc #osm, #flossk)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -------- Message original --------  Sujet : [CrisisMappers] Haiti Health
>>>>> Facilities Master List  Date : Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:02:43 -0600  De : David
>>>>> William Bitner <bitner at dbspatial.com> <bitner at dbspatial.com>  R?pondre
>>>>> ? : crisismappers at googlegroups.com  Pour :
>>>>> crisismappers at googlegroups.com
>>>>>
>>>>> The Haiti Health Facilities master list has now been made publicly
>>>>> available at
>>>>> http://sites.google.com/a/netspective.org/haiti-health-facilities/.
>>>>>  This represents a combination of many efforts over the past two weeks.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Of particular note is the unique identifier HealthC_ID which is based
>>>>> on the Minist?re de la Sant? Publique et de la Population (MSPP) of
>>>>> Haiti identifiers expanded to allow for temporary and transient health
>>>>> facilities.  Any groups tracking health facilities should make sure to
>>>>> incorporate this identifier to enable unambiguous sharing/merging of data
>>>>> between groups. This dataset is owned by the MSPP and is being maintained by
>>>>> WHO/PAHO and the website allows for submitting corrections and additions to
>>>>> keep the dataset up to date.
>>>>>
>>>>>  David
>>>>> Sahana Software Foundation
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Nicolas Chavent
>>>> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti
>>>> Mobile (FRA): +33 6 75 14 29 70
>>>> Email: nicolas.chavent at gmail.com
>>>> Skype: c_nicolas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton <jgc at arkemie.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Could someone help automatically importing this list into OSM ?
>>>>> (At least X, Y, name, healthC_ID, for 1267 points)
>>>>>
>>>>> I could help to do some cleaning up with the points that might already be
>>>>> present in OSM.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jean-Guilhem
>>>>> (knowing JOSM, but no automatic import tool (yet ?))
>>>>> (jgc on irc #osm, #flossk)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -------- Message original --------  Sujet : [CrisisMappers] Haiti Health
>>>>> Facilities Master List  Date : Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:02:43 -0600  De : David
>>>>> William Bitner <bitner at dbspatial.com> <bitner at dbspatial.com>  R?pondre
>>>>> ? : crisismappers at googlegroups.com  Pour :
>>>>> crisismappers at googlegroups.com
>>>>>
>>>>> The Haiti Health Facilities master list has now been made publicly
>>>>> available at
>>>>> http://sites.google.com/a/netspective.org/haiti-health-facilities/.
>>>>>  This represents a combination of many efforts over the past two weeks.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Of particular note is the unique identifier HealthC_ID which is based
>>>>> on the Minist?re de la Sant? Publique et de la Population (MSPP) of
>>>>> Haiti identifiers expanded to allow for temporary and transient health
>>>>> facilities.  Any groups tracking health facilities should make sure to
>>>>> incorporate this identifier to enable unambiguous sharing/merging of data
>>>>> between groups. This dataset is owned by the MSPP and is being maintained by
>>>>> WHO/PAHO and the website allows for submitting corrections and additions to
>>>>> keep the dataset up to date.
>>>>>
>>>>>  David
>>>>> Sahana Software Foundation
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ************************************
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>>>> --
>>>> Nicolas Chavent
>>>> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti
>>>> Mobile (FRA): +33 6 75 14 29 70
>>>> Email: nicolas.chavent at gmail.com
>>>> Skype: c_nicolas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Nicolas Chavent
>>> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti
>>> Mobile (FRA): +33 6 75 14 29 70
>>> Email: nicolas.chavent at gmail.com
>>> Skype: c_nicolas
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>> Nicolas Chavent
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