[Talk-ht] PAHO Medical Facilities
Al Haraka
alharaka at gmail.com
Thu Feb 4 02:48:23 GMT 2010
Kate,
I am not sure if I am following properly, but I think the issue here
will be proper rendering (again, depending on what server and how
selective the renderer; there are many Haiti specific side projects
pulling from OSM as I understand and rendering in different ways to
highlight different, I hate to say, POI's). I understood
Jean-Guilhem's concern to be that the data will be uploaded, but not
readily visible.
Am I mistaken here?
Best,
_AJS
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Kate Chapman <kate at maploser.com> wrote:
> Jean-Guilhem,
>
> I'm not sure which makes more sense to people. The amenity= sounds
> weird to me but I'm up for suggestions. I was just thinking that
> maybe there are health facilities that don't fit with the amenity tag
> so it would make more sense to do something else.
>
> Anyone else have any thoughts?
>
> Kate
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton <jgc at arkemie.com> wrote:
>> Kate, thanks.
>>
>> But there is no "amenity=..." anymore ? Only
>> "health_facility_type=dispensary" ?
>>
>> (I thought it would be "amenity=dispensary".)
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Jean-Guilhem
>>
>>
>> Kate Chapman a écrit :
>>
>> Karl: Your suggestions make sense. I changed to
>> health_facility:organisation and source:health_facility.
>>
>> Jean-Guilhem: you are right I made a dispensary tag instead. Thank you.
>>
>> I apologize for not putting this in the bulk import area of the wiki
>> it did not occur to me it was a bulk import because the data really
>> needs to be gone through by hand. Though since it technically is an
>> import it should be noted somewhere.
>>
>> Thanks everyone for your suggestions, if anyone wants edit capability
>> for the github repo let me know and I can do that.
>>
>> -Kate
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 6:05 AM, Karl Guggisberg
>> <karl.guggisberg at guggis.ch> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> two questions regarding tagging in the current OSM files
>> (http://github.com/wonderchook/PAHO_to_OSM):
>> * could we replace the currently used "organisation" tag with
>> "operator"? Quote from the OSM Map Features list:
>> "The operator tag can be used to name a company or corporation who's
>> responsible for a certain object or who operates it."
>> Alternatively, could we replace "organisation" with
>> "health_facility:organisation"
>>
>> * could we replace "source" with "source:health_facility"? OSM objects
>> in Haiti now are based on different sources. We have tmaintain
>> attributions for image sources, public maps, and other datasets (Sahana).
>>
>> Regards
>> Karl
>>
>> Am 03.02.2010 08:07, schrieb Kate Chapman:
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I converted the PAHO medical facilities data into OSM format.
>> http://github.com/wonderchook/PAHO_to_OSM. I also included the rules
>> file. If anyone needs files in another format or anything let me
>> know.
>>
>> I chunked it up into 26 files so people could work on it. The tags
>> associated with each facility are ones that are important to WHO/PAHO.
>> We want to make sure we include data that is going to be important to
>> these organizations. They are willing to contribute data back to us
>> from the ground, but we need to include information that relates to
>> humanitarian efforts. In my experience working with this data there
>> have been many circumstances where the OSM positional accuracy is
>> better, something to keep in mind when resolving the discrepancies
>> between the two datasets.
>>
>> The most important information is the health_facility:paho_id that is
>> the universal ID for medical facilities in Haiti and will allow OSM
>> data to interact more easily with other systems.
>>
>> This is our first attempt at using the Humanitarian OSM tags in the
>> wild: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags
>>
>> We made every attempt to continue to use already existing tags. The
>> wiki might need to be cleaned up a bit to match what is in the .osm
>> files.
>>
>> To summarize:
>>
>> 1. We want OSM to be the source of this type of data
>> 2. In order to be the source we need to include info of importance to NGOs
>> 3. Yes the Humanitarian Tags are a draft but we need to start somewhere.
>> 4. If there is something drastically wrong let me know and we'll
>> figure out how to fix it.
>>
>> I saw emails flying by regarding workflow I'm not sure the best way to
>> figure out who is working on what.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for all your assistance and hardwork.
>>
>> Kate Chapman
>> User:wonderchook
>>
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