[Talk-ht] Mapping Request: Mapping Radio and TV Stations_ Helpneeded!

Karl Guggisberg karl.guggisberg at guggis.ch
Sat Feb 6 16:02:30 GMT 2010


Hi Gert

I have a couple of issues regarding this import and I hope you don't 
mind if I'm going to  try to clean it up. I wouldn't consider the import 
done yet.

I'm going to describe my issues here:
   
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Tasks_and_Ideas/RadioTvStations
Let's follow up there.

Regards
Karl

Am 06.02.2010 16:54, schrieb ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen:
>
> Changeset  3804459 contains 200+ stations
>
> Gert
>
> *Van:* talk-ht-bounces at openstreetmap.org 
> [mailto:talk-ht-bounces at openstreetmap.org] *Namens *Karl Guggisberg
> *Verzonden:* zaterdag 6 februari 2010 14:31
> *Aan:* talk-ht at openstreetmap.org
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [Talk-ht] Mapping Request: Mapping Radio and TV 
> Stations_ Helpneeded!
>
> Hi Gert
>
> Could you post the changeset id(s) used  for the import?
>
> Regards
> Karl
>
> Am 06.02.2010 14:15, schrieb ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert 
> Gremmen:
>
> Consider this carried out, 95% is actually imported, but there is room 
> for
>
> Improvement, as both studios and towers are all labeled "tower: 
> communication" for the moment, and
>
> a lot of accents got lost in the import. There are also a few doubles.
>
> Gert
>
> User : cetest
>
> *Van:* talk-ht-bounces at openstreetmap.org 
> <mailto:talk-ht-bounces at openstreetmap.org> 
> [mailto:talk-ht-bounces at openstreetmap.org] *Namens *Sandra Sudhoff
> *Verzonden:* donderdag 4 februari 2010 16:49
> *Aan:* talk-ht at openstreetmap.org <mailto:talk-ht at openstreetmap.org>
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [Talk-ht] Mapping Request: Mapping Radio and TV 
> Stations _ Helpneeded!
>
> Hi,
>
> to give more details, the data is hosted in Google Spreadsheets and 
> the skin (+ link) can be downloaded from here: 
> http://www.cartong.org/Files_for_public_download/Radio%20Stations%20Haiti.kmz 
>
>
> We are of course still updating; we mapped everything we could get 
> hold of, but some of the stations are misplaced still and of course 
> the attributes (operational etc ) are updated as soon as we get news. 
> The list is now around about 230 stations, I do not think it will get 
> much bigger, but we already noticed that some stations we had initally 
> in there, actually ended up being the same and had just name changed 
> etc; so just to give you an idea that the data is still in flow.
>
> Let me know the best way how to feed the data to you, I can export as 
> CSV, which will be static then, though, but it butchers up the 
> encoding when I do that; unless anyone can give me a pointer how to 
> avoid to do that? Best of course would be if there could be feeding 
> from the kml.
>
> Cheers
>
> Sandra
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     *From:* Mikel Maron [mailto:mikel_maron at yahoo.com]
>     *Sent:* Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:18 AM
>     *To:* Sandra Sudhoff; talk-ht at openstreetmap.org
>     <mailto:talk-ht at openstreetmap.org>
>     *Subject:* Mapping Request: Mapping Radio and TV Stations _ Help
>     needed!
>
>     We've gotten confirmation from Sandra that we can import radio and
>     tv station locations into OSM.
>     Need to coordinate with Sandra to import the data, and keep it up
>     to date and their db is updated.
>     Can anyone stand up for this?
>
>     Thanks
>     Mikel
>
>     == Mikel Maron ==
>     http://mapkibera.org/
>     +254 (0) 724899738
>     mikel at osmfoundation.org <mailto:mikel at osmfoundation.org>
>
>     ----- Forwarded Message ----
>     *From:* Sandra Sudhoff <s_sudhoff at cartong.org>
>     <mailto:s_sudhoff at cartong.org>
>     *To:* David Fawcett <david.fawcett at gmail.com>
>     <mailto:david.fawcett at gmail.com>; Jeffrey Ollie <jeff at ocjtech.us>
>     <mailto:jeff at ocjtech.us>
>     *Cc:* karl.guggisberg at guggis.ch
>     <mailto:karl.guggisberg at guggis.ch>; Mikel Maron
>     <mikel_maron at yahoo.com> <mailto:mikel_maron at yahoo.com>
>     *Sent:* Thu, February 4, 2010 10:37:41 AM
>     *Subject:* RE: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Mapping
>     Radio and TV Stations _ Help needed!]]
>
>     Guys,
>
>     IMS told me to go ahead and share the data, let me know what the best
>     way is, especially as it is still in the process of being updated.
>     We host it in Google Spreadsheet.
>
>     Cheers
>     Sandra
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Sandra Sudhoff [mailto:s_sudhoff at cartong.org
>     <mailto:s_sudhoff at cartong.org>]
>     Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 8:57 AM
>     To: 'David Fawcett'; 'Jeffrey Ollie'
>     Cc: 'karl.guggisberg at guggis.ch
>     <mailto:karl.guggisberg at guggis.ch>'; 'Mikel Maron'
>     Subject: RE: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Mapping Radio
>     and TV
>     Stations _ Help needed!]]
>
>
>     Sorry guys,
>
>     I have not forgotten about your request to integrate the data to
>     OSM. I
>     have re-send the request to autorise to Internews but have not
>     received
>     a response so far. However, as I have been informed by IMS, the
>     organisation we compile the data for who are on the ground by now,
>     there
>     will be a meeting with the mappers + internews on the ground;
>     therefore
>     I hope I have a response soon.
>
>     The good side of this, I have sent all questionable positions
>     (many, as
>     the Geocoding in the country side is not as advanced as in PaP) to IMS
>     in the field and hope that while waiting for internews response we can
>     clean up/adjust our positional errors.
>
>     Thank you for your patience.
>
>     Regards
>     Sandra
>
>
>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: David Fawcett [mailto:david.fawcett at gmail.com
>     <mailto:david.fawcett at gmail.com>]
>     Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 6:50 PM
>     To: Jeffrey Ollie
>     Cc: karl.guggisberg at guggis.ch <mailto:karl.guggisberg at guggis.ch>;
>     Sandra Sudhoff; talk at openstreetmap.org <mailto:talk at openstreetmap.org>
>     Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Mapping Radio
>     and TV
>     Stations _ Help needed!]]
>
>
>     Towers are also present in many of the unclassified DMA maps too.
>
>     On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Jeffrey Ollie <jeff at ocjtech.us
>     <mailto:jeff at ocjtech.us>> wrote:
>     > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Karl Guggisberg
>     > <karl.guggisberg at guggis.ch <mailto:karl.guggisberg at guggis.ch>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >> Be careful with this list, we don't have the OK to import it
>     into the
>
>     >> OSM database yet. Sandra is currently investigating.
>     >
>     > In the case of radio & TV stations, are we looking for the locations
>     > of the transmitters or the locations of the studios?  Finding
>     > transmitters isn't that hard for remote mappers if you have good
>     > enough satellite imagery but finding the studios would be difficult.
>     >
>     > Also, in the future can we find a format that will be easier for
>     > people that don't have Google Earth to use?
>     >
>     > --
>     > Jeff Ollie
>     >
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