[Talk-ht] Mapping Request: Mapping Radio and TV Stations _ Helpneeded!

Mon Feb 8 08:26:33 GMT 2010

Hi Sandra,

I think the wrong tagging is not a big problem for now

as telecommunication towers are (not yet) rendered.

In the coming weeks we will update faulty names and tags

based on what we already know and what with the information the
community will

provide us. 

Gert Gremmen

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Van: Sandra Sudhoff [mailto:s_sudhoff at cartong.org] 
Verzonden: Monday, February 08, 2010 7:50 AM
Aan: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
CC: talk-ht at openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp: RE: [Talk-ht] Mapping Request: Mapping Radio and TV Stations
_ Helpneeded!

Hi Gert,

in fact, only the Points that say GPS by tower in the notes are really
tower locations, to be honest. The rest was geocoded on the studio
addresses, which could have the tower on site; but we would not know.

Many stations have similar addresses, this could be linked to the fact
that several radios which programmatically are targeting different
listener groups use the same facilities, but of course it is also
possible that some have changed the name in the meantime and only one is
still existing. 

Regards

Sandra

	-----Original Message-----
	From: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
[mailto:g.gremmen at cetest.nl] 
	Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 2:15 PM
	To: s_sudhoff at cartong.org
	Cc: talk-ht at openstreetmap.org
	Subject: RE: [Talk-ht] Mapping Request: Mapping Radio and TV
Stations _ Helpneeded!

	Consider this carried out, 95% is actually imported, but there
is room for 

	Improvement, as both studios and towers are all labeled "tower:
communication" for the moment, and

	a lot of accents got lost in the import. There are also a few
doubles.

	Gert

	User : cetest

	Van: talk-ht-bounces at openstreetmap.org
[mailto:talk-ht-bounces at openstreetmap.org] Namens Sandra Sudhoff
	Verzonden: donderdag 4 februari 2010 16:49
	Aan: talk-ht at openstreetmap.org
	Onderwerp: Re: [Talk-ht] Mapping Request: Mapping Radio and TV
Stations _ Helpneeded!

	Hi,

	to give more details, the data is hosted in Google Spreadsheets
and the skin (+ link) can be downloaded from here: 
http://www.cartong.org/Files_for_public_download/Radio%20Stations%20Hait
i.kmz 

	We are of course still updating; we mapped everything we could
get hold of, but some of the stations are misplaced still and of course
the attributes (operational etc ) are updated as soon as we get news.
The list is now around about 230 stations, I do not think it will get
much bigger, but we already noticed that some stations we had initally
in there, actually ended up being the same and had just name changed
etc; so just to give you an idea that the data is still in flow.

	Let me know the best way how to feed the data to you, I can
export as CSV, which will be static then, though, but it butchers up the
encoding when I do that; unless anyone can give me a pointer how to
avoid to do that? Best of course would be if there could be feeding from
the kml.

	Cheers

	Sandra

		-----Original Message-----
		From: Mikel Maron [mailto:mikel_maron at yahoo.com] 
		Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:18 AM
		To: Sandra Sudhoff; talk-ht at openstreetmap.org
		Subject: Mapping Request: Mapping Radio and TV Stations
_ Help needed!

		We've gotten confirmation from Sandra that we can import
radio and tv station locations into OSM.
		Need to coordinate with Sandra to import the data, and
keep it up to date and their db is updated.
		Can anyone stand up for this?

		Thanks
		Mikel

		== Mikel Maron ==
		http://mapkibera.org/
		+254 (0) 724899738
		mikel at osmfoundation.org 

		----- Forwarded Message ----
		From: Sandra Sudhoff <s_sudhoff at cartong.org>
		To: David Fawcett <david.fawcett at gmail.com>; Jeffrey
Ollie <jeff at ocjtech.us>
		Cc: karl.guggisberg at guggis.ch; Mikel Maron
<mikel_maron at yahoo.com>
		Sent: Thu, February 4, 2010 10:37:41 AM
		Subject: RE: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: [Fwd: [CrisisMappers]
Mapping Radio and TV Stations _ Help needed!]]

		Guys,

		IMS told me to go ahead and share the data, let me know
what the best
		way is, especially as it is still in the process of
being updated.
		We host it in Google Spreadsheet.

		Cheers
		Sandra

		-----Original Message-----
		From: Sandra Sudhoff [mailto:s_sudhoff at cartong.org] 
		Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 8:57 AM
		To: 'David Fawcett'; 'Jeffrey Ollie'
		Cc: 'karl.guggisberg at guggis.ch'; 'Mikel Maron'
		Subject: RE: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: [Fwd: [CrisisMappers]
Mapping Radio and TV
		Stations _ Help needed!]]

		Sorry guys, 

		I have not forgotten about your request to integrate the
data to OSM. I
		have re-send the request to autorise to Internews but
have not received
		a response so far. However, as I have been informed by
IMS, the
		organisation we compile the data for who are on the
ground by now, there
		will be a meeting with the mappers + internews on the
ground; therefore
		I hope I have a response soon.

		The good side of this, I have sent all questionable
positions (many, as
		the Geocoding in the country side is not as advanced as
in PaP) to IMS
		in the field and hope that while waiting for internews
response we can
		clean up/adjust our positional errors. 

		Thank you for your patience.

		Regards
		Sandra

		-----Original Message-----
		From: David Fawcett [mailto:david.fawcett at gmail.com] 
		Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 6:50 PM
		To: Jeffrey Ollie
		Cc: karl.guggisberg at guggis.ch; Sandra Sudhoff; 
talk at openstreetmap.org
		Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: [Fwd: [CrisisMappers]
Mapping Radio and TV
		Stations _ Help needed!]]

		Towers are also present in many of the unclassified DMA
maps too.

		On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Jeffrey Ollie <
jeff at ocjtech.us> wrote:
		> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Karl Guggisberg 
		> <karl.guggisberg at guggis.ch> wrote:
		>>
		>> Be careful with this list, we don't have the OK to
import it into the

		>> OSM database yet. Sandra is currently investigating.
		>
		> In the case of radio & TV stations, are we looking for
the locations 
		> of the transmitters or the locations of the studios?
Finding 
		> transmitters isn't that hard for remote mappers if you
have good 
		> enough satellite imagery but finding the studios would
be difficult.
		>
		> Also, in the future can we find a format that will be
easier for 
		> people that don't have Google Earth to use?
		>
		> --
		> Jeff Ollie
		>
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