[Talk-ht] Mapping Request: Mapping Radio and TV Stations _ Helpneeded!

Karl Guggisberg karl.guggisberg at guggis.ch
Mon Feb 8 22:11:44 GMT 2010


Hi,

I've run a second import and cleaned up the issues we had with the first 
one, see
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Tasks_and_Ideas/RadioTvStations
or the OSM changeset http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3827369

@Sandra: let us know if new data is available. We now have the scripts 
in place to replace outdated data in OSM very quickly.

Regards
Karl

Am 08.02.2010 09:26, schrieb ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen:
>
> Hi Sandra,
>
> I think the wrong tagging is not a big problem for now
>
> as telecommunication towers are (not yet) rendered.
>
> In the coming weeks we will update faulty names and tags
>
> based on what we already know and what with the information the 
> community will
>
> provide us.
>
> Gert Gremmen
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
> Osm
>
> Openstreetmap.nl  (alias: cetest)
>
> P* Before printing, think about the environment.*
>
> *Van:* Sandra Sudhoff [mailto:s_sudhoff at cartong.org]
> *Verzonden:* Monday, February 08, 2010 7:50 AM
> *Aan:* ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
> *CC:* talk-ht at openstreetmap.org
> *Onderwerp:* RE: [Talk-ht] Mapping Request: Mapping Radio and TV 
> Stations _ Helpneeded!
>
> Hi Gert,
>
> in fact, only the Points that say GPS by tower in the notes are really 
> tower locations, to be honest. The rest was geocoded on the studio 
> addresses, which could have the tower on site; but we would not know.
>
> Many stations have similar addresses, this could be linked to the fact 
> that several radios which programmatically are targeting different 
> listener groups use the same facilities, but of course it is also 
> possible that some have changed the name in the meantime and only one 
> is still existing.
>
> Regards
>
> Sandra
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     *From:* ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
>     [mailto:g.gremmen at cetest.nl]
>     *Sent:* Saturday, February 06, 2010 2:15 PM
>     *To:* s_sudhoff at cartong.org
>     *Cc:* talk-ht at openstreetmap.org
>     *Subject:* RE: [Talk-ht] Mapping Request: Mapping Radio and TV
>     Stations _ Helpneeded!
>
>     Consider this carried out, 95% is actually imported, but there is
>     room for
>
>     Improvement, as both studios and towers are all labeled "tower:
>     communication" for the moment, and
>
>     a lot of accents got lost in the import. There are also a few doubles.
>
>     Gert
>
>     User : cetest
>
>     *Van:* talk-ht-bounces at openstreetmap.org
>     [mailto:talk-ht-bounces at openstreetmap.org] *Namens *Sandra Sudhoff
>     *Verzonden:* donderdag 4 februari 2010 16:49
>     *Aan:* talk-ht at openstreetmap.org
>     *Onderwerp:* Re: [Talk-ht] Mapping Request: Mapping Radio and TV
>     Stations _ Helpneeded!
>
>     Hi,
>
>     to give more details, the data is hosted in Google Spreadsheets
>     and the skin (+ link) can be downloaded from here:
>     http://www.cartong.org/Files_for_public_download/Radio%20Stations%20Haiti.kmz
>
>
>     We are of course still updating; we mapped everything we could get
>     hold of, but some of the stations are misplaced still and of
>     course the attributes (operational etc ) are updated as soon as we
>     get news. The list is now around about 230 stations, I do not
>     think it will get much bigger, but we already noticed that some
>     stations we had initally in there, actually ended up being the
>     same and had just name changed etc; so just to give you an idea
>     that the data is still in flow.
>
>     Let me know the best way how to feed the data to you, I can export
>     as CSV, which will be static then, though, but it butchers up the
>     encoding when I do that; unless anyone can give me a pointer how
>     to avoid to do that? Best of course would be if there could be
>     feeding from the kml.
>
>     Cheers
>
>     Sandra
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         *From:* Mikel Maron [mailto:mikel_maron at yahoo.com]
>         *Sent:* Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:18 AM
>         *To:* Sandra Sudhoff; talk-ht at openstreetmap.org
>         *Subject:* Mapping Request: Mapping Radio and TV Stations _
>         Help needed!
>
>         We've gotten confirmation from Sandra that we can import radio
>         and tv station locations into OSM.
>         Need to coordinate with Sandra to import the data, and keep it
>         up to date and their db is updated.
>         Can anyone stand up for this?
>
>         Thanks
>         Mikel
>
>         == Mikel Maron ==
>         http://mapkibera.org/
>         +254 (0) 724899738
>         mikel at osmfoundation.org
>
>         ----- Forwarded Message ----
>         *From:* Sandra Sudhoff <s_sudhoff at cartong.org>
>         *To:* David Fawcett <david.fawcett at gmail.com>; Jeffrey Ollie
>         <jeff at ocjtech.us>
>         *Cc:* karl.guggisberg at guggis.ch; Mikel Maron
>         <mikel_maron at yahoo.com>
>         *Sent:* Thu, February 4, 2010 10:37:41 AM
>         *Subject:* RE: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Mapping
>         Radio and TV Stations _ Help needed!]]
>
>         Guys,
>
>         IMS told me to go ahead and share the data, let me know what
>         the best
>         way is, especially as it is still in the process of being updated.
>         We host it in Google Spreadsheet.
>
>         Cheers
>         Sandra
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: Sandra Sudhoff [mailto:s_sudhoff at cartong.org
>         <mailto:s_sudhoff at cartong.org>]
>         Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 8:57 AM
>         To: 'David Fawcett'; 'Jeffrey Ollie'
>         Cc: 'karl.guggisberg at guggis.ch
>         <mailto:karl.guggisberg at guggis.ch>'; 'Mikel Maron'
>         Subject: RE: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Mapping
>         Radio and TV
>         Stations _ Help needed!]]
>
>
>         Sorry guys,
>
>         I have not forgotten about your request to integrate the data
>         to OSM. I
>         have re-send the request to autorise to Internews but have not
>         received
>         a response so far. However, as I have been informed by IMS, the
>         organisation we compile the data for who are on the ground by
>         now, there
>         will be a meeting with the mappers + internews on the ground;
>         therefore
>         I hope I have a response soon.
>
>         The good side of this, I have sent all questionable positions
>         (many, as
>         the Geocoding in the country side is not as advanced as in
>         PaP) to IMS
>         in the field and hope that while waiting for internews
>         response we can
>         clean up/adjust our positional errors.
>
>         Thank you for your patience.
>
>         Regards
>         Sandra
>
>
>
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: David Fawcett [mailto:david.fawcett at gmail.com
>         <mailto:david.fawcett at gmail.com>]
>         Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 6:50 PM
>         To: Jeffrey Ollie
>         Cc: karl.guggisberg at guggis.ch
>         <mailto:karl.guggisberg at guggis.ch>; Sandra Sudhoff;
>         talk at openstreetmap.org <mailto:talk at openstreetmap.org>
>         Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Mapping
>         Radio and TV
>         Stations _ Help needed!]]
>
>
>         Towers are also present in many of the unclassified DMA maps too.
>
>         On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Jeffrey Ollie
>         <jeff at ocjtech.us <mailto:jeff at ocjtech.us>> wrote:
>         > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Karl Guggisberg
>         > <karl.guggisberg at guggis.ch
>         <mailto:karl.guggisberg at guggis.ch>> wrote:
>         >>
>         >> Be careful with this list, we don't have the OK to import it
>         into the
>
>         >> OSM database yet. Sandra is currently investigating.
>         >
>         > In the case of radio & TV stations, are we looking for the
>         locations
>         > of the transmitters or the locations of the studios?  Finding
>         > transmitters isn't that hard for remote mappers if you have good
>         > enough satellite imagery but finding the studios would be
>         difficult.
>         >
>         > Also, in the future can we find a format that will be easier for
>         > people that don't have Google Earth to use?
>         >
>         > --
>         > Jeff Ollie
>         >
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