[Talk-ht] Onboarding new mappers

[Karl Guggisberg]

Hi,

please don't try to import/merge Health Facilties manually. We have a 
plan to import/merge v2 of the list later. This is rather not a task for 
people onboarding to the Haiti Relief Effort, unless they have good 
scripting skills we would, of course, be happy to benefit from. I'm 
currently cleaning up the Humanitarian Data Model for Health Facilities, 
which has become the most mature part of the HDM. I've also created 
mapping to the PAHO model, see 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags/Humanitarian_Data_Model/MappingHdmPaho.

I feel that we soon reach a state where we can import v2 with a tag set 
which can be claimed "fully compliant with HDM".

amenity=hospital is discurated for health facilites in general. HDM 
currently assumes that three types of health facilites will be tagged 
with amentiy=hospital ( @Jean-Guilhem Cailton: field hospitals too, this 
will solve your issue)

There is a list of potential duplicates I've identified. PAHO and other 
involded organisation are aware of them, Jean-Guilhem and Kate are 
liaising with them. Lets wait for the next consolidated master list 
which, hopefully, will include less duplicates. Besides OSM there are 
dozens of other organisations working of data reconcilation regarding 
Health Facilities. We are now at a state where it doesn't  make sense to 
"deduplicate" in the OSM database. It would be helpful, though, to 
*identify* duplicate Health Facilities and flag them as such in OSM, see 
this link
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Status/Hospitals#How_to_deal_with_duplicate_entries
for how to do that.

Regards
Karl

Am 12.02.2010 14:52, schrieb Jean-Guilhem Cailton:
> A few suggestions:
>
> - Help could be welcome to continue cleaning up the Haiti Health 
> Facilities (HHF) list. As described on
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Status/Hospitals
> a master list is available on
> http://sites.google.com/a/netspective.org/haiti-health-facilities/
> Version 1 has been integrated into OSM (to the extent possible, due to 
> duplicates.)
>
> Karl has prepared a .osm file containing version 2 (the last one 
> currently available, with tags modified as also described on
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags/Humanitarian_Data_Model
> and I think he is working on scripts to import this version 2. (Which 
> still contains many duplicates.)
>
> If you are interested, I could forward to you work spreadsheets from 
> health specialists, which could help bringing HHF in OSM to the 
> equivalent of a version 2.5, while awaiting for version 3 of the 
> master list to be released.
>
> While dedicated tagging (particularly with health_facility:type=*) 
> precisely follows the HHF master list categories, I suggest using, in 
> a ad-hoc fashion for Haiti, "amenity=hospital" for the HHF in general 
> (maybe temporarily), so that they show, with a red cross and at zoom 
> levels allowing a sufficiently large area to be seen at once, on the 
> map at www.openstreetmap.org that OSM outsiders are most likely to 
> consult first.
>
>
> - An important request from the government of Haiti requesting an IDP 
> database was transmitted to the CrisisMappers mailing list. IDP camps 
> are available from various sources (OCHA, UNOSAT, JRC, Chinese Academy 
> of Sciences, OSM contributors, etc...) It would certainly not hurt to 
> have them reviewed, merged and integrated in OSM.
>
>
> - Mapping the slums. See :
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Tasks_and_Ideas#Currently_for_Haiti_-_.22Now.22
>
>
> I think this could keep quite a few volunteers usefully busy for a 
> while. :)
> (and I still have other ideas, if needed.)
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jean-Guilhem
>
>
>
> Mikel Maron a écrit :
>> Anthony
>>
>> Thanks for checking in ... I'm not sure what's the most pressing need 
>> right now .. can anyone suggest more tasks? Or are we reaching a 
>> plateau for now?
>>
>> -Mikel
>> == Mikel Maron ==
>> +254(0)724899738 @mikel s:mikelmaron
>> http://mapkibera.org/
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Haiti
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Anthony Mintrup <tmintrup at sbcglobal.net>
>> *To:* talk-ht at openstreetmap.org
>> *Sent:* Fri, February 12, 2010 1:35:28 AM
>> *Subject:* [Talk-ht] Onboarding new mappers
>>
>> I'm the point person at Crisis Camp Chicago for onboarding vols to 
>> help with mapping Haiti (though have no mapping experience). I've 
>> developed a 101 guide based on info I've sifted through on wiki 
>> pages. For fun, I completed tutorials and attempted to practice so I 
>> could field questions from vols. However, it is difficult for me to 
>> find items that are not mapped. Seems like whatever I click on has 
>> been mapped and tagged. What am I missing? Are people just responding 
>> quickly to documented tasks and getting it done?
>> Tony
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