[Talk-ht] Onboarding new mappers

Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhauser at gmail.com
Fri Feb 12 16:15:19 GMT 2010


In case you want to kick it old school, the URL to use in Potlatch for "best
aerial" is
http://hypercube.telascience.org/tiles/1.0.0/haiti-best-900913/!/!/!.jpg,
and you can view the 1:50K topo map along with other layers at
http://haiticrisismap.org/

<http://haiticrisismap.org/>Brad

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:57 AM, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert
Gremmen <g.gremmen at cetest.nl> wrote:

>  There is a huge amount of stuff to map in rural areas.
>
>
>
> 1.       Install java en download JOSM
>
> 2.       Install the WMS plug-in
>
> 3.       Choose a rural area somewhere, not to big and download data
>
> 4.       play around and study JOSM for an hour or so, ask questions if
> you need to
>
> 5.       Install WMS layers “best aerial” and TOPO 50K
>
> 6.       JOSM may shift layers so as to align them, to already avalaible
> data : the topo map below is less then 100 meter off however.
>
> 7.       compare and map rivers, hamlets, roads (most tracks anyway)  land
> slidings , important buildings mountain peaks
>
> 8.       The tope map gives you a wealth  of names and places and
> mountains peaks to map
>
> 9.       The areal pictures show you roads, buildings and rivers (depends
> on available resolution in your area)
>
> 10.   Study, compare and add missing items
>
> 11.   Report the area you are working on to this list (topo map  reference
> lines ?) to avoid duplicates
>
>
>
> WMS links for JOSM
>
>
>
> best aerial :
> http://hypercube.telascience.org/cgi-bin/mapserv?map=/geo/haiti/mapfiles/4326.map&layers=haiti-best&request=GetMap&version=1.0.0&styles=&format=image/jpeg&service=WMS&
>
>
>
> topomap 1:50K (all of Haiti)
>
>
> http://hypercube.telascience.org/cgi-bin/mapserv?map=/home/ortelius/haiti/haiti.map&layers=haiti-tlm-50&request=GetMap&version=1.0.0&styles=&format=image/jpeg&service=WMS&
>
>
>
> Well you also might map using the potlatch editor, but you won’t have 2
> layers to switch to,
>
> and while potlatch is easier to start with ….. JOSM will do much better and
> accurate mapping,
>
> and has some features (like Q : make a building or area square-angled) and
> add-node-on-the fly
>
> You should see me mapping rivers / areas with that, that you will miss very
> much.
>
>
>
> Oh, do not forget to connect roads to roads, other wise a router may never
> find them.
>
> Loose roads are of no use .
>
>
>
>  Well, see for yourself.
>
>
>
> Gert Gremmen
>
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> [image: Osm]
>
> Openstreetmap.nl  (alias: cetest)
>
> P* Before printing, think about the environment.*
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>
>
> *Van:* talk-ht-bounces at openstreetmap.org [mailto:
> talk-ht-bounces at openstreetmap.org] *Namens *Karl Guggisberg
> *Verzonden:* Friday, February 12, 2010 3:28 PM
> *Aan:* Jean-Guilhem Cailton
> *CC:* talk-ht at openstreetmap.org
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [Talk-ht] Onboarding new mappers
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> please don't try to import/merge Health Facilties manually. We have a plan
> to import/merge v2 of the list later. This is rather not a task for people
> onboarding to the Haiti Relief Effort, unless they have good scripting
> skills we would, of course, be happy to benefit from. I'm currently cleaning
> up the Humanitarian Data Model for Health Facilities, which has become the
> most mature part of the HDM. I've also created mapping to the PAHO model,
> see
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags/Humanitarian_Data_Model/MappingHdmPaho
> .
>
> I feel that we soon reach a state where we can import v2 with a tag set
> which can be claimed "fully compliant with HDM".
>
> amenity=hospital is discurated for health facilites in general. HDM
> currently assumes that three types of health facilites will be tagged with
> amentiy=hospital ( @Jean-Guilhem Cailton: field hospitals too, this will
> solve your issue)
>
> There is a list of potential duplicates I've identified. PAHO and other
> involded organisation are aware of them, Jean-Guilhem and Kate are liaising
> with them. Lets wait for the next consolidated master list which, hopefully,
> will include less duplicates. Besides OSM there are dozens of other
> organisations working of data reconcilation regarding Health Facilities. We
> are now at a state where it doesn't  make sense to "deduplicate" in the OSM
> database. It would be helpful, though, to *identify* duplicate Health
> Facilities and flag them as such in OSM, see this link
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Status/Hospitals#How_to_deal_with_duplicate_entries
> for how to do that.
>
> Regards
> Karl
>
> Am 12.02.2010 14:52, schrieb Jean-Guilhem Cailton:
>
> A few suggestions:
>
> - Help could be welcome to continue cleaning up the Haiti Health Facilities
> (HHF) list. As described on
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Status/Hospitals
> a master list is available on
> http://sites.google.com/a/netspective.org/haiti-health-facilities/
> Version 1 has been integrated into OSM (to the extent possible, due to
> duplicates.)
>
> Karl has prepared a .osm file containing version 2 (the last one currently
> available, with tags modified as also described on
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags/Humanitarian_Data_Model
> and I think he is working on scripts to import this version 2. (Which still
> contains many duplicates.)
>
> If you are interested, I could forward to you work spreadsheets from health
> specialists, which could help bringing HHF in OSM to the equivalent of a
> version 2.5, while awaiting for version 3 of the master list to be released.
>
> While dedicated tagging (particularly with health_facility:type=*)
> precisely follows the HHF master list categories, I suggest using, in a
> ad-hoc fashion for Haiti, "amenity=hospital" for the HHF in general (maybe
> temporarily), so that they show, with a red cross and at zoom levels
> allowing a sufficiently large area to be seen at once, on the map at
> www.openstreetmap.org that OSM outsiders are most likely to consult first.
>
>
> - An important request from the government of Haiti requesting an IDP
> database was transmitted to the CrisisMappers mailing list. IDP camps are
> available from various sources (OCHA, UNOSAT, JRC, Chinese Academy of
> Sciences, OSM contributors, etc...) It would certainly not hurt to have them
> reviewed, merged and integrated in OSM.
>
>
> - Mapping the slums. See :
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Tasks_and_Ideas#Currently_for_Haiti_-_.22Now.22
>
>
> I think this could keep quite a few volunteers usefully busy for a while.
> :)
> (and I still have other ideas, if needed.)
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jean-Guilhem
>
>
>
> Mikel Maron a écrit :
>
> Anthony
>
> Thanks for checking in ... I'm not sure what's the most pressing need right
> now .. can anyone suggest more tasks? Or are we reaching a plateau for now?
>
> -Mikel
>
>
>
> == Mikel Maron ==
> +254(0)724899738 @mikel s:mikelmaron
> http://mapkibera.org/
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Haiti
>
>
>
>
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>
> *From:* Anthony Mintrup <tmintrup at sbcglobal.net> <tmintrup at sbcglobal.net>
> *To:* talk-ht at openstreetmap.org
> *Sent:* Fri, February 12, 2010 1:35:28 AM
> *Subject:* [Talk-ht] Onboarding new mappers
>
> I'm the point person at Crisis Camp Chicago for onboarding vols to help
> with mapping Haiti (though have no mapping experience). I've developed a 101
> guide based on info I've sifted through on wiki pages. For fun, I completed
> tutorials and attempted to practice so I could field questions from vols.
> However, it is difficult for me to find items that are not mapped. Seems
> like whatever I click on has been mapped and tagged. What am I missing? Are
> people just responding quickly to documented tasks and getting it done?
>
>
>
> Tony
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