[Talk-ht] [Fwd: Re: Collective assessment of need for public high-res imagery of Chile]

Jean-Guilhem Cailton jgc at arkemie.com
Wed Mar 3 12:27:32 GMT 2010


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Sujet : 	Re: Collective assessment of need for public high-res imagery 
of Chile
Date : 	Wed, 03 Mar 2010 10:04:44 +0100
De : 	Jean-Guilhem Cailton <jgc at arkemie.com>
Pour : 	crisismappers-chile at googlegroups.com
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Thank you for your answer.

David Stevens a écrit :
> Jean-Guilhem
> Let me put forward a few more ideas on top of what Chris put forward.
> First of all I do want to confirm that we know how relevant the work 
> carried out within CrisisMappers is. Here at UN-SPIDER there are 
> several of us following closely the postings. Having said that I do 
> question how much of the relevant analysis and map products actually 
> were used/are being used by the UN and other responding agencies on 
> the ground in Haiti (here I am thinking specifically of the map 
> products). 
We have an on-going effort to help disseminate the use of OSM to 
Haitians and relief workers on the ground, through diaspora and involved 

We are also involved in the Haiti Health Facilities Working Group, led 
by PAHO (Pan-American Health Organisation) and HHS (US Department of 
Health and Human Services).
> We will be evaluating this next week when we meet with the Civil 
> Protection Agency in PaP. My view is that the UN should have used it 
> more and there is a need to integrate more closely. We have a 
> UN-SPIDER International Workshop in Bonn in October and we will take 
> the opportunity of this international gathering of experts to evaluate 
> exactly that (among other topics): how can we as UN build upon wider 
> opportunities including CrisisMappers.
> Then regarding access to imagery Chris correctly pointed out that all 
> imagery is being made available for free use by Chilean institutions 
> as well as all NGOs and international organisations directly 
> supporting these institutions We list the imagery on our webpage
> http://www.un-spider.org/chile
> We also list the updated target areas for imagery and also the list of 
> Chilean institutions that are coordinating the efforts. Notice that 
> Chile has designated specific people to coordinate this international 
> effort.
> If anyone on this list is directly supporting the efforts at the 
> request of the Chilean government and does not have access to the 
> resources listed on the webpage then please send me an email 
> (david.stevens at unoosa.org <mailto:david.stevens at unoosa.org>) so we can 
> help get access.
The problem from OpenStreetMap point of view is that this policy hinders 
OSM involvement in the relief effort. (As explained by Mikel elsewhere 
in this group).

After seeing the usefulness of OSM effort in Haiti, it is difficult to 
witness this passively.
> In turn I will prepare a list of the known ongoing efforts which we 
> know have started and post this list. Two such efforts is G-MOSAIC and 
> Chile is a different working environment but also an opportunity for 
> this wider international community to have a stronger impact in the 
> decision process as long as we can ensure that the work carried out is 
> done closely with a Chilean institution involved in the response.
OSM is fortunate to have an active community in Chile, that had already 
achieved a remarkable quality of mapping. We are actively working with 
them, and trying to support them as best we can.
> Finally I do want to point out that the norm is not to have access to 
> free imagery for wider public use. Right now we at UN-SPIDER are 
> looking at getting imagery for two other disasters which are not 
> receiving wide attention: the landslide in Uganda and the emerging 
> situation in Kiev with possible record floods over the next couple of 
> weeks.
There are, for instance, very significant OSM mapping efforts going on 
in Albania and Kosovo. Flooding in Albania resumed, after the initial 
January event. More imagery would have been nice there too.

If the information you have access to makes you think that OSM 
volunteers efforts would be useful in specific parts of the World, 
please let us know. I am sure there is enough variety within the OSM 
community to find interests for collaborating on various events and 
> And one last final input: once you have an assessment which will 
> definitely show how useful public access to free imagery is in 
> supporting response efforts we will be the first to work with you to 
> raise awareness of the need to wide access to imagery for any disaster 
> (and not just the ones that hit the media attention)
This is exactly what we are trying to achieve.
> Regards
> David
> David Stevens
> Programme Coordinator
> United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs
> Vienna - Austria
> Tel. ++43-(1)-26060-5631 - Skype: tazarkount
> Mobile +43 - 699 1459-5631 -  E-Mail david.stevens at unoosa.org 
> <mailto:david.stevens at unoosa.org>

Best regards,



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