[OSM-talk-ie] Tagging holy wells

Patrick Casey pcasey at compuserve.com
Sun Sep 14 09:37:35 BST 2008

<<  If others also wish to tag holy wells, they should consider your scheme
and whether it does what they need. >> Is there some preferred place in the
Wiki or somewhere else in the OSM world where one can post proposed tagging
such as the holy wells so that, if there are no objections, the proposed
Holy Well Tagset gets moved into the main list of tags ? Or would it simply
be best for me to post it on the Ireland wiki under 2. Tagging features /
2.2 Other features ? Where is the best place to put it so that people who
are likely to tag holy wells (large community, that) are likely to find it.


* Thanks to your suggestions this is a proposed tagset for a holy well in
the middle of a field with no grotto.

natural = spring
historic = monument
amenity = holy well
religion = christian
denomination = Roman Catholic

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[mailto:talk-ie-bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Dermot McNally
Sent: 13 September 2008 23:24
To: Discussion of Open Streetmap in Ireland
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Tagging holy wells

2008/9/13 Patrick Casey <pcasey at compuserve.com>:

> Re. the creation of tags, I, as a newbie, am becoming confused here. I
> thought the idea of tags was to create standardised descriptions which
> help renderers assign symbols and position legends on a map. This is
> not the case if creation of tags by beginners like me is allowed.

A few points here - firstly, since there's no hierarchy in OSM, the
system doesn't have any notion of newbie V experienced mapper. This is
in keeping with the wikipedia model which OSM has looked to copy in
certain areas. You're certainly correct that it is the Right Thing to
try to tag your real-world items where possible with tags that others
have used for those same items. Your reward for this is that your
stuff will be more likely to appear on the standard rendered maps - if
you're the sort of mapper who insists on tagging road=motorway instead
of highway=motorway, you'll pretty much need to write your own
renderer to see that on a map. Furthermore, you won't see anybody
else's motorways either, so it's lose lose.

That said, the OSM model is deliberately open, in order that it can
cater for anything that crops up in the real world, even the things we
haven't thought of yet. Your holy wells are a good example. If it
turns out that nobody else has ever had to tag one before, it's up to
you to come up with a reasonable tagging scheme, preferably one
consistent with precedent. If others also wish to tag holy wells, they
should consider your scheme and whether it does what they need.
Ideally, any changes they feel necessary are ones that you'll all
discuss and get happy with. Occasionally, agreement proves difficult
and we end up with more than one scheme. I did say it was an

> P.S. I loved the one about the moving statue, had me spluttering my
> gin and tonic into my keyboard.

Hmm, sorry about that, I should have timed it better.

> P.P.S. What does Class 2 mean ?

As Kevin has pointed out, it means that I'm a Father Ted fan. In it,
their local relic is upgraded from a class 3 to a class 2 relic.


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