[OSM-talk-ie] Dublin Bus Stops

[Dermot McNally]

Hi Paddy,

Sorry if this seems dismissive, but you must not under any
circumstances import these data into OSM. They are derived from a
Dublin Bus Database and Dublin Bus have not provided us with any
rights to reuse the information under a licence compatible with OSM.
It would be very convenient to do so - I for one have invested a lot
of effort collecting stop locations, names and reference numbers and
obtaining primary knowledge of bus routes.

My suggestion if you wish to enable an import into OSM:

Approach Dublin Bus and ask them for information on the terms under
which they are prepared to allow the use of this stop and route data.
I would advise you to avoid mentioning OSM, as we may, as a project,
have only one chance to make such an approach, and it would be a shame
for them to reply with a quick "no". I am working on some
demonstrations of the benefit of OSM for public transport and intend
to approach local representatives in order to maximise the chances of
a positive response. So please either ask a completely open question
about their terms of use or else describe the application you intend
to build.

A warning, though - if you do outline your intentions, one possibility
is that they will tell you not to, assert their database rights and
threaten action if you proceed with its use. Think about how you would
proceed if this were the reply.

Again, if Dublin Bus _do_ go on record that they are happy to consider
this stuff to be open data, you'll get plenty of help with an import.

Proceed with caution ;)
Dermot

On 7 September 2010 22:18, Paddy <paddyfitz at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Guys,
> I have been working on building a a neo4j & Google Maps based Public
> Transport Route Planner for Dublin,
> I'm still working on it I have a github project with a bit more info at:
> http://github.com/paddydub/TransportDublin
>
> I have extracted a lot of data from the Dublinbus.ie website to do the
> routeplanning, I have most Dublin Bus Stop data stored in a json file:
>  http://github.com/downloads/paddydub/TransportDublin/stops.json
>
> I don't have much experience with openstreetmap, Any pointers on how I could
> import this data to the openstreetmap project?
>
> Cheers
> Paddy
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