[OSM-talk-ie] Average speed camera zones

[Aidan McGinley]

It would appear this data is subject to some form of licence that means it
is not really "public domain".  The OSM guidelines are clear about how to
deal with this.  Approach the owner of the data and get permission to use
the data under OSM terms.  If there's any doubts after that contact the
Licensing Working Group.  I know it sucks to have all that process, but it
would be a shame to use the data and then have to pull it out later down
the line.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Legal_FAQ#2b._XYZ_Organisation_has_data_for_free_download_under_licence_N._Can_I_use_it_in_OSM.3F


On 1 October 2013 17:57, Richard Cantwell <manaboutcouch at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Dan,
>
> The key issue here is how did the Gardai or whoever made the .kmz for them
> source the data. If it was traced from an Ordnance Survey map or Google
> Maps then we can't import it into OpenStreetMap as it is 'derived data' and
> has copyright conditions attached to it. My suspicion is that this is
> probably the case, but if you were to contact the Gardai they might be able
> to confirm either way.
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard
>
> -=-
> Sent from my phone
>
> > On 1 Oct 2013, at 17:45, Daniel Cussen <dan at post.com> wrote:
> >
> > If you read here:
> > http://psi.gov.ie/home/
> >
> > It says
> > "The Directive has been transposed into Irish law ..which places an
> > obligation on public sector bodies to provide information about
> > material that they are prepared to release under the Directive. The
> > Regulations also give powers to the Minister for Public Expenditure
> > and Reform to require public sector bodies to supply information to
> > him and to specify the format."
> >
> > so I think you would still need to contact the Gardai, as far as I can
> make out.
> >
> >> On 01/10/2013, Donie Kelly <donie.kelly at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Does this data not fall under fair use they being a public body? How can
> >> they copyright it?  I'm not an expert on copyright law btw :)
> >>
> >> Can this information be obtained under the freedom of information act
> and
> >> used for whatever?
> >>
> >> Donie
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 1 Oct 2013, at 17:28, Daniel Cussen <dan at post.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> There is copyright info here:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.garda.ie/Controller.aspx?Page=1442&Lang=1
> >>>
> >>> You might need to ask for permission. Anyone want to ring the Gardai
> >>> press office!
> >>>
> >>>> On 01/10/2013, Daniel Cussen <dan at post.com> wrote:
> >>>> The data is hosted on the Gardai website. I am not sure on copyright
> >>>> information
> >>>>
> >>>> The zones can be viewed here:
> >>>> http://www.garda.ie/gosafe.htm
> >>>>
> >>>> More info on the actual database, and how to extract it etc is here:
> >>>> https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056903045
> >>>>
> >>>> along with the fixed camera positions.
> >>>>
> >>>> Dan
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 01/10/2013, Rory McCann <rory at technomancy.org> wrote:
> >>>>>> On 30/09/13 21:01, Daniel Cussen wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I did some work in the past moving the Gardai mobile speed camera
> >>>>>> database over to a format for Garmin. Could someone look at possibly
> >>>>>> importing the garda data into openstreetmap? I don't know if it
> would
> >>>>>> be possible.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The database does not include the speed limits, just a start and end
> >>>>>> location. I don't know what tags should be used and how useful the
> >>>>>> results would be on an off the shelf sat Nav.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> There is also a seperate file with fixed speed camera locations
> (there
> >>>>>> are very few) which could be a related project.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ideas/thoughts?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hiya Dan.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Good idea. Where did you get the data? One of the biggest problems
> with
> >>>>> importing data into OSM is that a lot of map data is copyrighted in a
> >>>>> way that doesn't allow import into OSM.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Rory
> >>>
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