[OSM-talk-ie] Talk-ie Digest, Vol 65, Issue 1

[Stephen Judge]

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​rgh, I sent my reply from the wrong email address. Sorry if this goes out
as a double post.

Hi Dave,

Personally I love this idea. I've only been doing some local editing of
areas I know using the iD OpenStreetMap editor. I found the tradition tools
like JOSM a bit to much of a learning curve and I don't have the time and
attention to read all of what's in the wiki to be a good mapper. I'd much
more welcome some mapping meetups to learn hands on from more experienced
mappers.

I have recently been thinking about access to historical maps. The OSI has
good historical maps which have to be out of copyright by now but I don't
get the impression they are open to collaborating with OSM or giving us
access to those maps to use as tiles. It's a shame the only historical
tiles we seem to have of Ireland on OSM comes from a British University.

I have also wanted to contact the likes of Dublin Bus to ask them for the
GPS locations of all their bus stops so we can map all of them with
accurate date such as bus stop number and routes served. They have to have
this GPS data because they are essentially overlaying this data on Google
Maps on there own website. I'd also like to see the Transport for Ireland
Journey Planner use our OSM maps rather than their maps, as their maps are
very low on detail. But in the end I felt these companies would probably
just ignore such a request from an individual. So an establish OSM Ireland
organisation would be perfect to act in this regard.

All of the points you mentioned, I agree with and at the least it might be
worth meeting up either AFK or in IRC/Google Hangouts. I also think there
are great opportunities to collaborate with the other open data
organisations in Ireland and with Wikimedia Ireland
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Ireland_Community>.

I am still quit new OSM editing and know nothing about the OSM Ireland
community so I am very interested to see how this develops.

Regards,
Stephen Judge <https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Stephen%20Judge>

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> Hi all,
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> Something I've been thinking about for a while now, is that we should look
> to forming into a proper entity i.e. an official OpenStreetMap Ireland
> chapter of OSM.
>
> A few reasons off the top of my head why I'd like to push ahead with this:
>
> - We will have representatives who can speak with authority to the press if
> required.
>
> - The Open data / Open Government movement has been steadily growing over
> the last 18-24 months here. Every event I've been to, at some point, I've
> had to utter the line "well at the moment we are just a group of people
> editing on OSM, there is no "Openstreetmap Ireland". Given the volume of
> work and effort that people have put it, its embarrassing to say that line.
>
> - When we go looking for maps and/or data we are an actual entity. That
> lends weight to any requests we make. The further we take this in relation
> to what type of a body we are (non-incorporated, incorporated, recognised
> chapter of OSMF)
>
> - Further down  the line, it opens up the possibility of getting funding /
> sponsorship. As it stands right now, companies are unlikely to give any
> significant kind of donation to us, ever, as they can not write it off as a
> donation because, essentially, we don't exist. I would like to
>
> - I would like to see us move up a gear in terms of organisation. What I
> mean by this is to take it to the next level in terms of meetup's, for
> example, a weekend meetup over a Sat & Sun in, say, Athlone (its central
> and is in need of some love mapwise) where a load of us would meetup,
> survey and map. Prior to going there though, we'd look for a local mapper
> who can get into schools or colleges with a few posters, get on to the
> local free paper to do a piece, chat to local radio etc to promote the
> event.
>
> - I would like to see us pushing more in the area of advocacy e.g.
> advocating for the use of OSM by local govt. and advocating for the release
> of data held by local govt's (if they are using our maps, give us stuff to
> make them better).
>
> - Finally, there is no reason, none whatsoever, why we shouldn't be able to
> start organising our own State of the Map for Ireland. We have more than
> enough going on to fill 1-2 days worth of a conference but a major
> roadblock to this would be the sponsorship aspect.
>
> I've looked into what would be involved, and starting out, there will be a
> body of work to be completed, but its by no means insurmountable.
>
> If there is generally positive feedback the next step would be to agree how
> to proceed and what format of an organisation we should be come.
>
> I have some thoughts on all of that, but I'll hold off for a few days to
> see what the thoughts are on this proposal.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave (DaCor)
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