[OSM-talk-ie] Talk-ie Digest, Vol 65, Issue 26

Brian Hollinshead brian at hollinshead.net
Thu Oct 30 15:44:11 UTC 2014


If you want an example of DublinCity.ie using OSM  go to DublinCity.ie and
click on Map zone and select any option.

On 30 October 2014 12:00, <talk-ie-request at openstreetmap.org> wrote:

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>    1. Overpass or wizard query (Brian Hollinshead)
>    2. Re: Overpass or wizard query (Donal Diamond)
>    3. Dublin.ie Dublin City Community Maps project (Stephen Judge)
>    4. Re: Dublin.ie Dublin City Community Maps project
>       (moltonel 3x Combo)
>    5. Re: Dublin.ie Dublin City Community Maps project (Dave Corley)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 16:58:04 +0000
> From: Brian Hollinshead <brian at hollinshead.net>
> To: talk-ie at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: [OSM-talk-ie] Overpass or wizard query
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> Using overpass i tried to see how many items tagged historic in County
> Dublin for talk on Saturday as part of Local History Day in Pearse Street
> Library.
>
> Tried historic=*   got none
>
> Tried historic= yes  got three martello towers
>
> any suggestions welcome as am not familiar with wizard.
> By the way some months ago got the figure of 2,600 features tagged historic
> in island of Ireland. Cant remember where or how I got it. A reminder would
> also be welcome.
>
> Many thanks
>
> <osm-script output="xml" timeout="250">
>   <id-query {{nominatimArea:County Dublin}} into="area"/>
>   <!-- gather results -->
>   <union>
>     <query type="way">
>       <has-kv k="Historic" v="*"/>
>       <area-query from="area"/>
>     </query>
>     <query type="node">
>       <has-kv k="historic" v="*"/>
>       <area-query from="area"/>
>     </query>
>     <query type="relation">
>       <has-kv k="historic" v="*"/>
>       <area-query from="area"/>
>     </query>
>
>
>
>   </union>
>
>   <!-- print results -->
>   <print mode="meta"/>
>   <recurse type="down"/>
>   <print mode="meta" order="quadtile"/>
> </osm-script>
> {{style: /* this is the MapCSS stylesheet */
> area { text: name; }
> }}
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 17:05:07 +0000
> From: Donal Diamond <donal.diamond at gmail.com>
> To: Discussion of Open Streetmap in Ireland
>         <talk-ie at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Overpass or wizard query
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> http://url.ie/wbpd
>
> I just clicked on the Wizard  button on
> http://overpass-turbo.openstreetmap.ie/  typed:
>
> historic=* in "County Dublin"
>
> To  get all on the Ireland just zoom out so you can see all of ireland and
> do a wizard query for   historic=*
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> D
>
>
> On 29 October 2014 16:58, Brian Hollinshead <brian at hollinshead.net> wrote:
>
> > Using overpass i tried to see how many items tagged historic in County
> > Dublin for talk on Saturday as part of Local History Day in Pearse Street
> > Library.
> >
> > Tried historic=*   got none
> >
> > Tried historic= yes  got three martello towers
> >
> > any suggestions welcome as am not familiar with wizard.
> > By the way some months ago got the figure of 2,600 features tagged
> historic
> > in island of Ireland. Cant remember where or how I got it. A reminder
> would
> > also be welcome.
> >
> > Many thanks
> >
> > <osm-script output="xml" timeout="250">
> >   <id-query {{nominatimArea:County Dublin}} into="area"/>
> >   <!-- gather results -->
> >   <union>
> >     <query type="way">
> >       <has-kv k="Historic" v="*"/>
> >       <area-query from="area"/>
> >     </query>
> >     <query type="node">
> >       <has-kv k="historic" v="*"/>
> >       <area-query from="area"/>
> >     </query>
> >     <query type="relation">
> >       <has-kv k="historic" v="*"/>
> >       <area-query from="area"/>
> >     </query>
> >
> >
> >
> >   </union>
> >
> >   <!-- print results -->
> >   <print mode="meta"/>
> >   <recurse type="down"/>
> >   <print mode="meta" order="quadtile"/>
> > </osm-script>
> > {{style: /* this is the MapCSS stylesheet */
> > area { text: name; }
> > }}
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 17:34:46 +0000
> From: Stephen Judge <stephenjudge at gmail.com>
> To: talk-ie at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: [OSM-talk-ie] Dublin.ie Dublin City Community Maps project
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> I just posted this feedback on the Dublin.ie Dublin City Community Maps
> project http://www.dublin.ie/maps/home.php
>
> I like what you are trying to do here, but in my opinion you are using the
> > wrong platform. Building data on top of Google Maps is just handing over
> > data to a corporate entity to further their commercial product. If you
> want
> > to really help the community, then encourage the community to build their
> > own community map. I am a volunteer mapper for the OpenStreetProject. It
> is
> > an open source, open data alternative to Google Maps and the like. Think
> of
> > Wikipedia, except for maps. Currently our maps of Dublin are far more
> > detailed that what Google Maps offers. All data entered onto our maps is
> > done so by volunteers and anybody can contribute.
> >
> > All the data you are now adding to your custom Google Maps, that is only
> > benefiting your map and Google, could instead be added to the
> OpenStreetMap
> > and would benefit anyone that builds on the OpenStreetMap data. There
> are a
> > lot of both commercial and non commercial organisations out there using
> > OpenStreetMap data for free. I recently got a commitment from Transport
> for
> > Ireland that they will be considering using OpenStreetMap data in their
> > next contract for the Journey Planner service, see
> > https://twitter.com/TFIupdates/status/522318117520023552.
> >
> > Please engage with the OpenStreetMap Ireland community of volunteer
> > mappers and build a true community map. You can find us here,
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Ireland and on our
> > mailing list here, https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
> >
> > Regards,
> > Stephen Judge
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 19:06:46 +0100
> From: moltonel 3x Combo <moltonel at gmail.com>
> To: Discussion of Open Streetmap in Ireland
>         <talk-ie at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Dublin.ie Dublin City Community Maps
>         project
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> On 29/10/2014, Stephen Judge <stephenjudge at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I just posted this feedback on the Dublin.ie Dublin City Community Maps
> > project http://www.dublin.ie/maps/home.php
>
> Nice catch, good message.
>
> AFAIU they have their own local db of POIs, they're not submiting any
> of it to Google. Depending on their worldview, getting them to merge
> into osm and use that instead might be a tough call.
>
> I'd add that they'd probably get something more responsive by using
> leaflet. What they have at the moment feels slower than using overpass
> for the same thing ("Bottle Banks" vs "recycling in dublin").
>
> Interestingly http://www.dublin.ie/maps/about shows a screenshot with
> clustering in action, but it doesn't seem active on the live site. I
> couldn't get them to route me to one of their POI either. And their
> bird's eye view is provided by Bing, not Google.
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 22:31:25 +0000
> From: Dave Corley <davecorley at gmail.com>
> To: Discussion of Open Streetmap in Ireland
>         <talk-ie at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Dublin.ie Dublin City Community Maps
>         project
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> they are at least due some kudos for starting to move away from OSi ;)
>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 6:06 PM, moltonel 3x Combo <moltonel at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On 29/10/2014, Stephen Judge <stephenjudge at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I just posted this feedback on the Dublin.ie Dublin City Community Maps
> > > project http://www.dublin.ie/maps/home.php
> >
> > Nice catch, good message.
> >
> > AFAIU they have their own local db of POIs, they're not submiting any
> > of it to Google. Depending on their worldview, getting them to merge
> > into osm and use that instead might be a tough call.
> >
> > I'd add that they'd probably get something more responsive by using
> > leaflet. What they have at the moment feels slower than using overpass
> > for the same thing ("Bottle Banks" vs "recycling in dublin").
> >
> > Interestingly http://www.dublin.ie/maps/about shows a screenshot with
> > clustering in action, but it doesn't seem active on the live site. I
> > couldn't get them to route me to one of their POI either. And their
> > bird's eye view is provided by Bing, not Google.
> >
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