[OSM-talk-ie] Landuse

[Dave Corley]

Hi  Colm,

I've seen what you are referring to.

All I can say is what I normally do and that is to leave an area alone
until I've had a chance to survey it.

Once I gather the street and housing estate and apartment block names, I'll
refine the landuse=res by enclosing each in their own boundary where the
boundaries are obvious and applying the name to it.

I've done this for most of Galway City and several of the larger towns in
Galway over the last few years.

When I'm out collecting that level of data I'll typically gather address
data at the same time too. If I'm at a place and surveying, the chances of
me coming back to gather address data separately are pretty slim so I try
get that while I'm there.

As for enclosing large areas I agree. The caveat to what I said above is
that it is dependent on the area being primarily a residential area. An
example would be blocks where the ground level is retail but the remaining
floors are apartments. The building is mixed use and primarily residential
however it is located in a retail area, then I map the area as retail.

This would be a great topic to discuss in more detail at the meet up on the
23rd

Dave
On 5 Apr 2016 21:46, "Colm Moore" <colmmoore72 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> Caution! Moan ahead! :)
>
> There has been talk of adopting a project like mapping all schools. I do
> think it is worthy.
> Could I suggest an alternative in landuse, in particular
> landuse=residential? We map lots of roads, forests and farmland, but not so
> mush residential usage.
> As it stands, there are large gaps in most of the cities, in particular
> city centres, although very little of Cork (residential) has been done at
> all. I accept that in city centres / other older areas it can be difficult
> to separate terraced houses from terraced mixed-use areas, without local
> knowledge.
> Separately, I think some users might be being too coarse in the
> application of landuse=residential and enclosing an entire village in one
> area or a middling-to-large sized town in two. I think it would be more
> useful to implement on a neighbourhood (in older areas) or housing estate
> level (in newer areas). I think it would make maintenance easier,
> especially if an housing estate has a name as a whole, that isn't
> necessarily reflected in the street or townland names, e,g, in Whitehall in
> Dublin, the combination of Walnut Rise, Walnut Lawn, Walnut Avenue, Walnut
> Park, Walnut Court are, for some reason, known as Courtlands (Estate).
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/132713513
> For example, in Malahide, there are about 25 streets with the name Seabury
> XXXX (and a few called Lissadell XXXX) and the area is known as Seabury.
> The origin of the name is the adjacent, but separate, townland of Seatown.
> The neighbouring areas of Yellow Walls and Swords Road are enclosed in the
> same landuse=residential area, although at points there are areas within
> areas, which I think can only make maintenance difficult. In a town of
> 14,000, two landuse=residential areas cover 90-95% of the population, while
> immediately next to it there are several areas used to cover 3-5 house each.
> Any thoughts?
> Thank you
>
> Colm
>
>
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