[OSM-talk-ie] Can Townlands be split for Civil parishes and barony boundries?

Cormac O Murchú com at iol.com
Thu Dec 15 23:36:14 UTC 2016


 

 

>Lugaphuill:

>The two townlands in separate Civil Parishes were combined into one by the

>Boundary Surveyor.

 

>A study of the valuation books this morning shows them as separate in 1856,

>1883, 1914 and 1922 but combined in 1935.

 

>A closer inspection of the annotations in the books show the effective date

>was 1927.

 

I suspect that they were combined because the census in 1926 was published
then, seemingly the Boundary Surveyor ( who doubles as Chief Valuation
Officer) stopped issuing orders in 1912.

 

Therefore I suspect ‘administrative’ rather than legal combination as Census
1926 was reported by ED only for the first time and Civil Parishes were
ignored for the first time. It was after local government acts in 1924 or
1925 that strengthened county councils.   

 

>I strongly believe that townlands which enjoyed a separate but adjoining

>existence for seventy years should be shown on OSM as such as there are a

>wealth of records referring to each part. Similarly where we find townlands

>which have been absorbed into city or town limits, that they should also be

>added to OSM for record purposes.

 

>I have therefore drawn the two original parts into OSM as Lugaphuill (Drum)

>and Lugaphuill (Ballyhean) AND left the combined one there until those who

>decide, decide which is preferable. I have added a note to all three as

>below

 

>"Lugaphuill (Drum) and Lugaphuill (Ballyhean) combined by Boundary Surveyor

>in 1927, as per Valuation Office books."

 

I’d be inclined to tag the 2 as townlands and the third as boundary=query (
can’t be historic) and no admin level. 

 

Sadly there are no digital copies/databases of boundary orders and the staff
in Abbey St told me to email the head honcho if I had further queries. Until
we find a copy of a Boundary Order under the boundary acts (made in 1927) we
should assume there ain’t one. When we do find them we change the tags to
reflect that. 

 

Lest anyone think that Civil Parishes have actually  gone away
read this
form 1998. 

 

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1998/si/427/made/en/print

 

I have a bigger headache. Rahoon in Galway was a townland, then split into 3
townlands in 3 EDs when Galway USC was created in 1898 then recombined when
Galway was expanded in 1986 to take in all of Rahoon. 

 

But the ‘old’ Rahoon townland is now in 6 separate Galway City EDs since
1986
.so what to do here. 1 to 3  to either 1 or now 6 Rahoon townlands. 

 

I’ll be up the boundary suryeyor for a query on that one. :)

 

 

 

 



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