[OSM-talk-ie] When is a townland a townland (and when is it 2+ > townlands)?

Colm Moore colmmoore72 at hotmail.com
Sun May 29 16:31:23 UTC 2016


Hi,

I concur with Paddy. Treat each part as a separate townland and name it TownlandName (Barony) as is the traditional convention.

If necessary, the part-townlands could be joined as a relation(?) as TownlandName.

Note that some townlands are not contiguous with themselves and there are enclaves and exclaves. :)

Colm

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> Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 12:50:29 +0100
> From: Patrick Matthews <mullinalaghta at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] When is a townland a townland (and when is
> 	it 2+	townlands)?
> 
> Rory, Dave,
> 
> My inclination is the opposite - there are plenty of situations where you
> have townlands "split" between civil parishes in exactly the same way as
> the ones you mention but where one "part" being in one ED and another in a
> different ED means that the two are shown as separate on the post-1898
> maps. (There can also be false positives where two completely different
> townlands in different parishes but with the same name happen to be in the
> same ED, e.g. Corravilla in east Cavan, where two townlands, one in
> Shercock parish and one in Knockbride, happen to be in the same ED and are
> represented in the maps as a single townland, but have different postal
> addresses and are listed separately in the electoral register.)
> 
> The methodology of the original Ordnance Survey, for what it's worth, was
> to treat each "part" of the townland as a separate entity, and they're
> still recorded as separate entities in the 1901 and 1911 census reports.
> 
> Baronies split by counties (e.g. Fore, Rathdown) should be treated
> separately as they were/are county subdivisions. Civil parishes and
> baronies were always independent of each other so the split doesn't matter
> there.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Paddy.
> 
 		 	   		  


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