[OSM-talk-ie] Typos in Townland names

Rory McCann rory at technomancy.org
Fri Feb 17 16:03:09 UTC 2017


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On 17/02/17 16:38, Brian Tuffy wrote:
> Just to be clear, if it is "X and Y" you should treat it as "X and
> Y", as it says on the wiki page. If it is "X or Y" then it should
> be treated as "X" or "Y" in OSM but It looks like Logainm treats "X
> or Y" as "X or Y" and so two townland names have one ref tag. The
> thing is your script will look for "Lisnakirka or Milebush" but in
> OSM it is name=Milebush and alt_name= Lis... 
> https://www.logainm.ie/35706.aspx

OK, that sounds a little more complicated. I think I'll leave it alone
then. We can always just find townlands with an "and" and without a
logainm:ref and manually add them. Sometimes manually adding it is
quicker than programming complicated rules.

> It confusses me why it is Lower or Northern (North is up right!! :)
> ) but I think it might be lower in elevation possibly? I doubt it.
> Upper Bavaria is the south because it rises to the alps.  More
> interestingly, up might be to the south? you go up towards Rome in
> Irish?? More More interestingly, I hear that Irish is one of those
> languages that has an in-built sense of direction, you wouldn't say
> move over to the left, you would say move east.... or something
> like that. I am not sure about it. Anyway, back to the map.

Usually "Upper" is upstream, and "lower" is downstream, near the mouth
of the river. e.g. the Upper Rhine Plane is in south Germany, because
that's near where the Rhine starts. So when you see "Upper X" that's
usually more "upsteam" or something.

> I agree with you that it should be mapped as an exclave. I have not
> seen any like that so that's why I suggested to have two
> townlands.

I don't know if I've seen it with townlands. It's more common with
Civil Parishes.
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