[OSM-talk-ie] Some of the 3300 parks in OSM Ireland are just patches of grass.

[Mateusz Konieczny]

18 paź 2020, 15:25 od brian at hollinshead.net:

> I understood that adding to the amount of land area that was
> classified with a landuse category was a good addition to the map.
>  
>
Yes, and mapping leisure=park area is
enough to classify area as used as a park


> My
> research showed that we have some 3,300 patches of land mapped but excluded
> from the landuse tag.
>
OSM tagging is organically grown and
is not very systematic.

leisure=park also marks land use
> For private citizens or public officials seeking data from OSM for
> structured park areas (with planting /benches.sports/keep fit apparatus
> etc) it makes the parks easier to find if they are tagged as landuse=park
> as well as leisure=park
>
Maybe, but introducing duplicate tag to
small subset of parks is not helpful
and just increases confusion.


> how you tag these areas when mapping in your home country.
>
In Poland urban parks are marked as 
leisure=park
> I note you suggest removing the leisure=park tags. I feel it would be
> presumptive of me to consider that those who used the tag some 3,300 times
> to have been mistaken or ill-judged in what they did. without me knowing
> the local conditions.
>
Yes, it would require verification.
>From your email I understood that
you verified some cases and found it to
be a bare grass area without park.
>
> On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 at 13:00, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-ie <
> talk-ie at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Oct 18, 2020, 11:59 by brian at hollinshead.net:
>>
>> > As part of my researches into what features we have on OSM that might
>> > interest someone wishing to make use of outdoor facilities, I find on the
>> > Island of Ireland we have close to 3,300 parks to choose from, wow!
>> > (leisure=park). On closer inspection I find that many of these in South
>> > Dublin at least are green areas of grass in housing estates, maybe 4
>> houses
>> > long by 8 houses wide. I tend to tag those as per the presets with
>> > landuse=grass.
>> >
>> I would remove leisure=park from them. Note that some people added
>> fake parks to manipulate outcomes in Pokemon Go that is
>> using OSM data.
>>
>> >  Yesterday I ran overpass landuse=park and got nil response!
>> >
>> Good!
>>
>> > This morning I have added landuse=park to about 24 of the parks already
>> on
>> > OSM and listed as parks by DLR, South Dublin and Fingal.
>> >
>> What is the point of this duplicate of leisure=park?
>>
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