[Talk-il] English Place names ...

Tal tal.bav at gmail.com
Tue Oct 21 10:11:19 BST 2008


Maybe we should sometime create openstreetmap.org.il and render the maps in
multiple languages according to the local request. start with Hebrew and
English version, and later if there is demand (i.e. enough data or enough
people working on adding a specific language like Russian, Arabic etc.) we
could render those languages as well. Israel is a small place. this is
feasible.

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Yuri Magrisso <yumariso at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Do you know if anybody has discussed in the past to make two map renderings
> - one using the 'name' tag and another using the 'name:en' tag and have both
> renderings as options? (as we have now options between Mapnik, Osmarenderer,
> and others) I did a search, but didn't find anything on it. It looks to me
> like the most reasonable solution...
>
> I also think that having both Hebrew and English version in the name tag
> will make the map too cluttered. Besides, if we start putting English names,
> others would ask why not French or Russian - Israel is a special case in
> that it is interesting for many cultures. There is actually one guy that
> started putting Latin names in the name tag that seem to be in Turkish.
>
> Yuri
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 12:36 AM, Baruch Even <baruch at ev-en.org> wrote:
>
>> * Jahudie <jahudie at googlemail.com> [081018 23:51]:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I saw that you had a discussion about english place names in the past.
>> > As I just now have time to answer I wanted to say that for me it is very
>> > important to have a recource of english written streets and Places.
>> > Not everybody knows hebrew but all streets have also a English street
>> name.
>> > Every city has a English Cityname.
>> >
>> > Both should be written and shown in the map somehow.
>> >
>> > I dont know OSM so good to know how to switch from Hebrew to English
>> output,
>> > but a Hebrew only map is useless for me.
>> > Tourists and Imigrants (like me) should be able to read the OSM map in a
>> > easy way.
>>
>> I understand the need, but writing both is excessive.
>>
>> We can (discuss and) decide that we write only English in the name tag
>> and then figure out how to generate a map in Hebrew for most of the
>> Israelis who are not very comfortable in English.
>>
>> Or we can do it in reverse and create a rendering of OSM in English for
>> those who can't read Hebrew,
>>
>> It is a general issue in OSM and not limited to Israel or Hebrew. Any
>> country which uses non-latin alphabet will have that problem as well.
>>
>> The official word is at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Key:name
>> and favours using the local name in the local script.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Baruch
>>
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