[Talk-in] Time for consensus

Ganesh Krishnamurthy ganeshkmurthy at gmail.com
Thu Oct 16 12:34:56 BST 2008


An easier link,
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:India_simplified_roadway_map.svg.

On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Shajeer Mohammed <shajeer at hotmail.com>wrote:

>  Can we can baseline the tagging based on color codes given on the NHAI
> map-
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/India_simplified_roadway_map.svg (big
> file)
>
>
>
> Regards
> Shajeer
>
>
>
>  *From:* PlaneMad <thePlaneMad at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, 16 October 2008 13:24
>  *To:* talk-in at openstreetmap.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-in] Time for consensus
>
>   Even 10,000 active mappers wont be enough to update the status of roads
> frequently. how many mappers would you expect who travel by road on 60000kms
> of national highways daily? While this can be done on heavily used nh's like
> the golden quad etc but its an impractical approach to follow for all the
> roads. I agree thats its really useful for motorists to know the condition
> of the road, but it would require a huge and highly unsustainable effort.
>
> This is the kind of info that i would like to see as an overlay to the map,
> like how you have live traffic status in google maps. That said, i'm not
> telling you not to continue your work with nh67, but it would be impossible
> to replicate this approach on our huge network of highways whose length
> total more than 200,000kms (nh+sh).
>
> I'm planning to give a session on osm at barcamp chennai this saturday<http://www.barcampchennai.org/index.php?title=Main_Page>,
> so it would be great if we can agree on something by then.
>
> cheers
>
> -arun
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:
>
>> On Thursday 16 October 2008 11:51:58 am Shajeer Mohammed wrote:
>> > It is great to have a dedicated person like you who can map and make
>> > changes to roads as their condition changes. But for most people
>> including
>> > me, I rarely go back and vist the same road once its mapped.
>>
>> not dedication - I travel these roads every day. So can update the
>> condition
>> daily. Which is the case with all of us - we maintain our areas. Currently
>> there are about 10-12 active people in India, but soon there will be
>> thousands - in that case daily updates of road conditions is possible.
>> That
>> is why we are better than google
>>
>> > So if we cant
>> > come up with once standard lets then come up with 2!. Even though there
>> are
>> > no standards on construction quality, number of lanes etc..., there is a
>> > standard on the ownership of the roads. NHAI owns all National Highways
>> and
>> > Bypasses. State government PWD owns all state highways and local roads
>> are
>> > owned by local civic bodies.
>> > So looks like the disagreement is on tagging national highways and state
>> > highways. I guess we all agree on express ways?
>>
>> We all agree on expressways - no problem
>>
>> 1. Trunk - connecting major cities. So we have to agree on major cities:
>>
>> metros - Mum, Chen, Del and Kol (maybe also bengaluru and hyderabad)
>>
>> 2. Primary - connecting 2 tier cities to each other and to major cities
>>
>> 2 tier cities: coimbatore, pune, madurai, mangalore, ahmedabad ...
>>
>> 3. Secondary - connecting district headquarters to state capitals or other
>> district headquarters
>>
>> 4. Everything else tertiary or less
>>
>> This is regardless of who owns the road
>>
>> Within cities - just map using common sense - basically, size of the road
>> and
>> amount of usage.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> regards
>> Kenneth Gonsalves
>> Associate
>> NRC-FOSS
>> http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/
>>
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