[Talk-in] Indian OSM server

Johnson Chetty johnsonchetty at gmail.com
Fri Mar 6 17:06:47 UTC 2015


Hi Shekhar,

On 6 March 2015 at 21:40, Shekhar Krishnan <shekhar at topomancy.com> wrote:

> I am withdrawing the offer of hosting from Topomancy for OSM India
> community server.
>


 >>>>> Hello,
 >>>>>
 >>>>> By the way, the tile service is still running on the server ...
in case the new server acquisition and setup would take time.


> All the same, I do not believe that having untrained and transient
> volunteers managing a service like this is at all viable, and don't know
> why such a simple question has led to such a prolonged debate.
>

Prolonged debate? We had set the tile server up in April last year but the
interest did not pick up. There was no interest in it from anyone after the
system stood!

>Nagarjun had written:

>gnowledge lab has recently acquired a deidated server for openstreetmap.
Johnson, Sanjay, Sathyakam, Sajjad and Arun have already promised to
>maintain the server. (included them in cc since I am not sure if I am
subscribed to the talk-in group.

I was the only one who got my hands dirty with this with inputs from mostly
from Arun and Sajjad.

I thought that this effort would be in the same vein, that it would take a
good amount of time to start with the new install and for someone to take
ownership of this task to see it through.

And rather than wait for so long, the server which was already set up could
have easily been used by those who wanted to play with the stylesheets
until things actually materialized. Was it offensive to have stated the
availability of it? At least we would have had some understanding to set up
a new machine more easily, in doing so.



> This is why I recommended against hosting at HBCSE-TIFR, where I am on
> staff, and know how poorly resourced we are at the moment.
>
>
>




> S.K.
>
>
> On Friday 06 March 2015 08:40 PM, Johnson Chetty wrote:
>
>>
>> On 6 March 2015 at 16:36, Arun Ganesh <arun.planemad at gmail.com
>> <mailto:arun.planemad at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Nagarjuna G. <nagarjun at gnowledge.org
>> <mailto:nagarjun at gnowledge.org>> wrote:
>>  >>
>>  >> If we show this 'truth' we will be welcoming trouble!
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > Lets fix this first.
>>  >
>>  > Johnson can you share the existing mapnik_style.xml file? Would be
>> awesome if its on github.
>>
>> Okay.. you want the default osm.xml or a separate style layer as
>> mapnik_style.xml for renderd?
>> I just saw that india streets repo and it seems you have mml stylesheet?
>>
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >> GN
>>  >>
>>  >> On 05-Mar-2015 4:32 pm, "Johnson Chetty" <johnsonchetty at gmail.com
>> <mailto:johnsonchetty at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  >>>
>>  >>> http://14.139.123.10:8080/osm/slippymap.html
>>  >>>
>>  >>>
>>  >>> On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 16:20 Arun Ganesh <arun.planemad at gmail.com
>> <mailto:arun.planemad at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  >>>>
>>  >>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Johnson Chetty
>> <johnsonchetty at gmail.com <mailto:johnsonchetty at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  >>>>>
>>  >>>>> Hello,
>>  >>>>>
>>  >>>>> By the way, the tile service is still running on the server ...
>> in case the new server acquisition and setup would take time.
>>  >>>>>
>>  >>>> Is there a url for this?
>>  >>>>
>>  >>>>
>>  >>>>>
>>  >>>>> Cheers,
>>  >>>>>
>>  >>>>> On 1 March 2015 at 19:59, satyaakam goswami <satyaakam at gmail.com
>> <mailto:satyaakam at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  >>>>>>
>>  >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Shekhar Krishnan
>> <shekhar at topomancy.com <mailto:shekhar at topomancy.com>> wrote:
>>  >>>>>>>
>>  >>>>>>> Knock knock. We were moving along with this and the thread
>> sputtered out.
>>  >>>>>>
>>  >>>>>>
>>  >>>>>> yeah we are here , do we have the servers ready , i have some
>> holidays coming up for Holi can work then .
>>  >>>>>>
>>  >>>>>>
>>  >>>>>> -Satya
>>  >>>>>> Satyaakam.net | fossevents.in <http://fossevents.in> |
>>  >>>>>>
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>>  >>>>>
>>  >>>>>
>>  >>>>>
>>  >>>>> --
>>  >>>>> Regards,
>>  >>>>> Johnson Chetty
>>  >>>>>
>>  >>>>>
>>  >>>>>
>>  >>>>>
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>> Regards,
>> Johnson Chetty
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Nagarjuna G. <nagarjun at gnowledge.org
>> <mailto:nagarjun at gnowledge.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     If we show this 'truth' we will be welcoming trouble!
>>
>>
>> Lets fix this first.
>>
>> Johnson can you share the existing mapnik_style.xml file? Would be
>> awesome if its on github.
>>
>>     GN
>>
>>     On 05-Mar-2015 4:32 pm, "Johnson Chetty" <johnsonchetty at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:johnsonchetty at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         http://14.139.123.10:8080/osm/slippymap.html
>>
>>
>>         On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 16:20 Arun Ganesh <arun.planemad at gmail.com
>>         <mailto:arun.planemad at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Johnson Chetty
>>             <johnsonchetty at gmail.com <mailto:johnsonchetty at gmail.com>>
>>             wrote:
>>
>>                 Hello,
>>
>>                 By the way, the tile service is still running on the
>>                 server ... in case the new server acquisition and setup
>>                 would take time.
>>
>>             Is there a url for this?
>>
>>                 Cheers,
>>
>>                 On 1 March 2015 at 19:59, satyaakam goswami
>>                 <satyaakam at gmail.com <mailto:satyaakam at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                     On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Shekhar Krishnan
>>                     <shekhar at topomancy.com
>>                     <mailto:shekhar at topomancy.com>>wrote:
>>
>>                         Knock knock. We were moving along with this and
>>                         the thread sputtered out.
>>
>>
>>                     yeah we are here , do we have the servers ready , i
>>                     have some holidays coming up for Holi can work then .
>>
>>
>>                     -Satya
>>                     Satyaakam.net | fossevents.in <http://fossevents.in>
>> |
>>
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>>                 Johnson Chetty
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