[Talk-in] Multilingual name tagging convention in India

Yogesh K S yogesh at itforchange.net
Tue Jul 12 08:44:49 UTC 2016


I too agree with keeping the current convention of name tags for
multilingual names. Belgium has just two languages and in context of our
regional languages, first mapper rule can create conflicts as Arun
indicated previously. Perhaps we should try to improve the current state
of multilingual names in India -
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.in/search?q=name%3A

cheers,
yogi

On 07/05/2016 06:19 PM, I Chengappa wrote:
> It would help greatly if mappers could see names in other languages on
> a rendered map. I see that the demo, for instance at
> http://openstreetmap.in/demo.html#9.99/13.9372/75.6525 is still just a
> demo. 
>
> On 5 July 2016 at 07:19, Srravya C <srravya.c at gmail.com
> <mailto:srravya.c at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>     Found a little more about this topic in a discussion here
>     <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:WikiProject_India#Use_English_for_the_.22name.22_tag>.
>     We could put the details about multilingual naming for India
>     in this page
>     <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Multilingual_names>. So that
>     anybody referring to this page in the future for naming
>     convention, will get an idea about existing conventions followed
>     for India. 
>
>     On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Thejesh GN <i at thejeshgn.com
>     <mailto:i at thejeshgn.com>> wrote:
>
>         I think the existing convention works really well. Use name
>         tag for latin script and specific language tag for that
>         language names. I think this makes it easy to work and also
>         divide work.
>
>
>
>
>
>         On Jul 4, 2016 11:34 PM, "Arun Ganesh"
>         <arun.planemad at gmail.com <mailto:arun.planemad at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             Bringing this up since there are recent edits adding
>             multilingual labels to the `name` tag [1][2].
>
>             The current convention that has been followed is to use
>             `name` for the local name in latin script. The reasoning
>             if I remember was two fold:
>             - English being one of the official languages, latin
>             script is widely used in cities and in public signages in
>             smaller towns. Only in villages it is uncommon.
>             - Keeping the tagging convention simple[3], that could be
>             used throughout the country in a standard way
>
>             Keeping just one name in each tag, we have been able to
>             avoid issues like the first mapper rule[4] that could
>             cause unnecessary regional conflicts over ordering of
>             scripts like in Belgium (and they have just two languages).
>
>             Since we can add the regional names in their own name:lang
>             tag, no data is ultimately lost, and it is upto the data
>             consumer to choose which language to support for the user.
>
>             Would be great to hear positives and negatives of this
>             approach and how it benefits the public Is it time to
>             revise this convention to be more regional rather than
>             national?
>
>
>             [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/40472998
>             [2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/40479683
>             [3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_India#Naming_in_different_scripts_and_languages
>
>             -- 
>             Arun Ganesh
>             @planemad
>
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