[Talk-is] LUKR import - skýrsla

Svavar Kjarrval svavar at kjarrval.is
Mon Jan 14 12:32:36 GMT 2013


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- Svavar Kjarrval

On 14/01/13 12:22, Eydís Hentze wrote:
> Sælir, er hægt að taka mig út af þessum lista?
>
> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Svavar Kjarrval <svavar at kjarrval.is
> <mailto:svavar at kjarrval.is>> wrote:
>
>     Hi.
>
>     The boundary relation does support putting a node where the
>     administration centre is. I did so for Reykjavík and I noticed
>     that the Kjalarnes part of the Reykjavík relation was on top,
>     which was most likely why Nominatim put the mark there. If it
>     works, it might take the change some time to be displayed.
>     According to the people at Nominatim, it works better if the town
>     is defined as an area, especially when looking up addresses.
>
>     Have you contacted the authors of the Navit turn-by-turn software
>     and asked them to put in a support for the boundary relation type?
>     If this is a problem for the capital area, then it must be a
>     problem for other municipalities in OSM too.
>
>     I'm not a strict regarding the don't map for the renderer. I only
>     deleted nodes (and moved their tags to the boundaries) in the
>     capital area, nowhere else. If the place nodes are needed, you're
>     free to add them again. I think we should locate those nodes in
>     the city hall building in each town and add those nodes as
>     administration centre nodes for the boundary relation
>     (role=admin_centre). That way we should satisfy both requirements
>     with a minimum amount of extra nodes.
>
>     If you want to, I can take care of adding the place nodes again,
>     since I was the one who deleted them. I think I know where each
>     administrative centre is.
>
>     - Svavar Kjarrval
>
>
>     On 12/01/13 20:33, Helmut Neukirchen wrote:
>>     Dear all,
>>
>>     I just realised that deleting nodes such as place=city or place=town
>>     should be reverted: many tools rely on this and cannot make use of
>>     boundaries.
>>
>>     (For me personally most annoying is that the open-source Navit
>>     turn-by-turn
>>     navigation software does not offer anymore to search addresses in
>>     the capital
>>     area due to the lack of these nodes, but maybe more prominent is
>>     Nominatim -- the search text field on
>>     http://www.openstreetmap.org : try
>>     searching for "Reykjavík": first result is the center of the
>>     Boundary for
>>     Kjalarnes and the second result is Reykavik in Manitoba.)
>>
>>     Of course, you might argue "Do not map for the renderer" and that
>>     having both
>>     nodes and boundaries is redundant, but I do not buy this: there
>>     is more than
>>     one tool that relies on the node and the node adds even that the the
>>     boundary cannot convey, e.g. the old Reykjavík was on
>>     Austurvöllur, i.e. the
>>     node location was used to tell where the perceived city center is.
>>
>>     Do you agree that we should add these nodes again? If yes, I
>>     think Svavar
>>     knows best which nodes he did remove, so are you, Svavar, willing
>>     to add them
>>     again?
>>
>>     Kveðja,
>>     Helmut
>>
>>     On 11/20/2012 12:02 AM, Svavar Kjarrval wrote:
>>
>>     > Bæjarmörk: Komin inn sem boundary relation, admin_level=6.
>>     Giskaði samt
>>     > fyrir Hafnarfjörð frá enda línu og að sjó þar sem sú lína var
>>     ekki inn á
>>     > LUKR. Eins og áður, ekki mikið mál að breyta þegar við fáum
>>     betri hnit.
>>     > Stalst til að setja þá línu þar sem Nominatim var alltaf að
>>     skilgreina
>>     > að sumar göturnar í Hafnarfirði tilheyrðu Reykjavík, jafnvel þegar
>>     > boundary relation var til fyrir Reykjavík. Eyddi út place=city og
>>     > place=town nóðum og færði tögin þeirra yfir í téð boundary
>>     relation.
>>
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