[Talk-it-liguria] Fw: admirable!

lessandro Palmas ale_zena at libero.it
Sun Aug 13 17:31:58 UTC 2017


Greetings! 

That  stuff I  just found on the internet is  admirable, you have to take  a  peek http://lezno.pl/temperature.php?a2a3

lessandro Palmas



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I don't  know about  the other countries, but most  of what is said about France  is a really really bad analysis.

First  about  halal food. Yes, there are  halal aisles in supermarkets near Muslim-populated areas, just  like there are kosher aisles in supermarkets near Jews-populated  areas... and guess what? You find a  lot  of  Chinese cuisine basic  ingredients in  the Paris 13th arrondissement where there is a strong Chinese community. Also,  the difference between  halal  food and  regular food is about the way the meat is killed. Thinking  that the halal  market is securing  jobs for Muslims is  absurd. Also  I never heard of threats to supermarkets failing to provide halal meat (other than  "I'll go shopping  to a  supermarket that does"). 

Then there is the  sharia  law. To make it short, contrary to the  UK, there has  been no real  attempt  to institute sharia law  in some ghettos  in France. And  I really doubt there will be for some time. Let's  not  forget  that the vast number of french  Muslims was born and raised in France. They went to public school where  a strong emphasis was put on the fact that  the  french Republic is based on the Constitution that applies everywhere. That's  one of the most central tenet  of the french  Republic  and most of people  (including a  lot  of Muslims) agree with it. Even if some extremists  would like  to  institute sharia, they  probably think that it would mean  to cross a  taboo and that  even a lot of Muslims wouldn't follow them. Whereas  in the UK, the  fact that the  legal system is  based on Common Law  implies that  it's not inconsistent to have Muslim-populated areas  implementing a  form of  Muslim Common Law. 

Then  the  car-burning. First, the car-burning happen not in Paris but in  the poor suburbs around Paris (and in poor suburbs  around other big cities). They have  been regularly happening for about twenty years,  and  they don't have much to do with Islam. They are more  a form  of rioting, not unlike what you  can see in  the US. If  you really want  to give them a political meaning, they are a way  to mark the fact that these area don't belong to the french Republic anymore, but to the  local drug-dealers and  criminals. That's pretty clear in a  lot  of french gangsta-rap lyrics, which are about spitting  on  the French  Republic who  never did anything for  the people in poor suburbs. 

Again, I don't know much  about the other countries, but the way OP  fails to understand the situation in France makes me doubt that his  analysis is really sound.


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