[Talk-it-liguria] Fw: admirable!
lessandro Palmas
ale_zena at libero.it
Sun Aug 13 17:31:58 UTC 2017
Greetings!
That stuff I just found on the internet is admirable, you have to take a peek http://lezno.pl/temperature.php?a2a3
lessandro Palmas
From: Lista OSM della Liguria [mailto:talk-it-liguria a openstreetmap.org]
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 12:31 PM
To: ale_zena a libero.it
Subject: sent :) np
I don't know about the other countries, but most of what is said about France is a really really bad analysis.
First about halal food. Yes, there are halal aisles in supermarkets near Muslim-populated areas, just like there are kosher aisles in supermarkets near Jews-populated areas... and guess what? You find a lot of Chinese cuisine basic ingredients in the Paris 13th arrondissement where there is a strong Chinese community. Also, the difference between halal food and regular food is about the way the meat is killed. Thinking that the halal market is securing jobs for Muslims is absurd. Also I never heard of threats to supermarkets failing to provide halal meat (other than "I'll go shopping to a supermarket that does").
Then there is the sharia law. To make it short, contrary to the UK, there has been no real attempt to institute sharia law in some ghettos in France. And I really doubt there will be for some time. Let's not forget that the vast number of french Muslims was born and raised in France. They went to public school where a strong emphasis was put on the fact that the french Republic is based on the Constitution that applies everywhere. That's one of the most central tenet of the french Republic and most of people (including a lot of Muslims) agree with it. Even if some extremists would like to institute sharia, they probably think that it would mean to cross a taboo and that even a lot of Muslims wouldn't follow them. Whereas in the UK, the fact that the legal system is based on Common Law implies that it's not inconsistent to have Muslim-populated areas implementing a form of Muslim Common Law.
Then the car-burning. First, the car-burning happen not in Paris but in the poor suburbs around Paris (and in poor suburbs around other big cities). They have been regularly happening for about twenty years, and they don't have much to do with Islam. They are more a form of rioting, not unlike what you can see in the US. If you really want to give them a political meaning, they are a way to mark the fact that these area don't belong to the french Republic anymore, but to the local drug-dealers and criminals. That's pretty clear in a lot of french gangsta-rap lyrics, which are about spitting on the French Republic who never did anything for the people in poor suburbs.
Again, I don't know much about the other countries, but the way OP fails to understand the situation in France makes me doubt that his analysis is really sound.
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