<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">ikiya$B$G$9!#(B<br><br>$B2K$,$"$l$P3$4_@~$r%(%G%#%?(BJOSM$B$d(BMerkaartor$B$G$$$m$$$m%A%'%C%/$+$1$F$$$^$9$,!"(B<br>$B$^$@$o$+$j$^$;$s!#(B<br>$B8D?ME*$K$O%l%s%@%j%s%0BT$A$+$J$H;W$C$F$$$^$9!#(B<br>$BB>$N860x$"$j$=$&$G$7$?$i$<$R$*CN$i$;$/$@$5$$!#(B<br><br>***** $B3$4_@~%A%'%C%/%D!<%k(B *****<br><br>Coastline error checker<br>$B$3$l$,M-NO$G$9$,$$$^$$$A;H$($F$$$^$;$s!#(B<br>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Coastline_error_checker<br><br>OSM
 Inspecter<br>$B$3$A$i$N3$4_@~%A%'%C%/$OF|K\$OBP>]30$G$7$?!#;DG0!#(B<br>$B$A$J$_$K2hLL$K$"$k(BBaselayer$B%a%K%e!<$r@Z$jBX$($F$_$F$b(BMapnik$B$@$1JQ$J$h$&$K8+$($^$9!#(B<br>http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/debug.html?view=water&lon=142.94063&lat=43.82499&zoom=7&opacity=1.00&overlays=coastline,coastline,simple_islands,coastline_nodes,rivermouths,coastline_not_simple,coastline_unconnected<br><br><br>***** $B%l%s%@%j%s%0$N3NG'(B
 *****<br><br>$B0J2<$N%5%$%H$G%l%s%@%j%s%08+$F$$$^$9$,:#$N$H$3$m860x$O$o$+$j$^$;$s!#(B<br>Geofabrik.de<br>http://tools.geofabrik.de/map/?type=Geofabrik&lon=134.35832&lat=34.18724&zoom=9<br>Cloudmade.com<br>http://maps.cloudmade.com/?lat=36.093499&lng=137.427979&zoom=7&styleId=1&opened_tab=0<br>Mapquest.com$B!J$3$A$i$O%l%s%@%j%s%0%G!<%?$1$C$3$&8E$$!K(B<br>http://www.mapquest.com/maps?country=JP<br><br>$B0J>e!";29M$^$G!#(B<br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 2011/11/2, Yoichi Seino <i><say.no00@gmail.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote class="jp_replyForwardContainer" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br><div
 class="plainMail">$B@6Ln$G$9!#(B<br><br>$B%@%0%i%9$5$s!"$"$j$,$H$&$4$6$$$^$7$?!#(B<br>$B$H$C$F$b=u$+$j$^$9!#(B<br>$BF|K\8l%a!<%j%s%0%j%9%H$G$bBt;3$N309q?M$NJ}$,8+$F$$$F2<$5$C$F$$$F!"(B<br>$B$3$&$d$C$F5_$$$N<j$r:9$7?-$Y$F$/$l$k$N$O$H$F$b4r$7$/;W$$$^$9!#(B<br><br>$B:#8e$H$b$h$m$7$/$*4j$$CW$7$^$9!#(B<br><br><br>2011/11/2 Douglas Perkins <<a ymailto="mailto:douglas@dperkins.org" href="/mc/compose?to=douglas@dperkins.org" target="_self">douglas@dperkins.org</a>>:<br>> $B%@%0%i%9$G$9!#(B<br>><br>> $B@6Ln$"$j$,$H$&$4$6$$$^$9!#;d$O$3$N%$%s%U%)%a!<%7%g%s$r(BKimon$B$5$s$KEA$($^$9!#(B<br>><br>> Dear Kimon,<br>><br>> The talk-ja list is indeed in Japanese, so if possible Japanese is<br>> preferred.  Some members of talk-ja also speak English and subscribe to<br>> English language OSM lists, so perhaps you
 could post to them and someone<br>> else could forward the relevant information?  I'm not sure what the best<br>> means of communication would be.<br>><br>> I translated your question into Japanese, and here is what I was told.<br>><br>> As for the coastline issues you mention, there was a recent large-scale data<br>> import -- the Yahoo!/ALPS Data Import, to be precise.  There was a variety<br>> of road data and coastline data.  It is quite possible that the weird<br>> coastline you find is a result of this import.  You can read about it in<br>> Japanese (or imperfectly using Google Translate) at the following sites.<br>><br>> <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.jp/node/66" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.jp/node/66</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2011-October/005625.html"
 target="_blank">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2011-October/005625.html</a><br>><br>> There is a lot of new coastline data, and most of it has been imported<br>> properly.  There were a few glitches that have mostly been fixed.  Still, it<br>> seems coastline rendering is different from POIs and roads, and it is only<br>> rendered every few weeks or so.  The first link above was written on 10/18.<br>><br>> Sincerely,<br>><br>> Douglas<br>><br>> On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 15:31:57 +0900, Yoichi Seino wrote:<br>>><br>>> $B@6Ln$G$9!#(B<br>>><br>>> $B%@%0%i%9$5$s$"$j$,$H$&$4$6$$$^$7$?!#(B<br>>><br>>> $B$*$=$i$/(BYahoo!/ALPS$B$N%G!<%?%$%s%]!<%H$N$;$$$G$*$+$7$/$J$C$F$$$k$@$m$&$3$H$O(B<br>>> <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.jp/node/66" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.jp/node/66</a><br>>>
 $B$3$A$i$NEj9F$d!"(B<br>>><br>>> <a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2011-October/005625.html" target="_blank">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2011-October/005625.html</a><br>>> $B$3$A$i$N%a!<%j%s%0%j%9%H$X$NEj9F$G$"$kDxEYH=L@$7$F$*$j$^$9!#(B<br>>> $B=PMh$^$7$?$i!"%$%s%]!<%H$5$l$F$$$kJ}$G$3$N7o$K$*>\$7$$J}$K!"(B<br>>> $BK\2H$N%a!<%j%s%0%j%9%H$X$*JV;v$r=q$$$F$$$?$@$-$?$$$N$G$9$,!D!#(B<br>>> $BF|K\8l$G$3$A$i$N%a!<%j%s%0%j%9%H$KEv9;$7$F$/$@$5$C$F$b7k9=$G$9!#(B<br>>><br>>> $B$h$m$7$/$*4j$$$$$?$7$^$9!#(B<br>>><br>>><br>>> 2011/11/2 Douglas Perkins <<a ymailto="mailto:douglas@dperkins.org" href="/mc/compose?to=douglas@dperkins.org" target="_self">douglas@dperkins.org</a>>:<br>>>><br>>>>
 $B%@%0%i%9$G$9!#Lu$7$F$_$?$$$G$9!#1Q8l$G=q$/$3$H$,$G$-$^$9$,!"2?$NJV;v$,$$$$$+J,$+$j$^$;$s!#(B<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> $B!V$3$s$K$A$O(B<br>>>> talk-ja$B$H8@$&%j%9%H$O$[$H$s$IF|K\8l$J$s$G$9$,!";d$OF|K\8l$"$^$j$G$-$^$;$s$G$9$,(B...<br>>>> $BF|K\$N3$4_@~$$$m$s$J>l=j$G$J$s$+$b$s$@$$$"$k$_$?$$$G$9!#(B<br>>>> OSM$B$KF~$l$F$$$kEZ$N%]%j%4%s$O3$$N>e$^$G$D$1$F$$$^$9!#(B<br>>>><br>>>> $BNc$($P!'(B<br>>>> <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=43.65&lon=142.87&zoom=8&layers=M" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=43.65&lon=142.87&zoom=8&layers=M</a><br>>>> <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=33.704&lon=133.075&zoom=9&layers=M"
 target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=33.704&lon=133.075&zoom=9&layers=M</a><br>>>><br>>>> <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=32.783&lon=130.372&zoom=10&layers=M" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=32.783&lon=130.372&zoom=10&layers=M</a><br>>>><br>>>> $B$o$+$j$^$;$s$G$9$,!"$b$7$+$7$F0JA0$K@5$7$$3$4_@~$,>C$($i$l$^$7$?$+$b$7$l$J$$!#(B<br>>>> $B%R%9%H%j!<$KC5$7$^$7$?!"$3$s$J$3$H$r8+$D$1$l$^$;$s$G$7$?!#!W(B<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 13:19:47 +0900, Yoichi Seino wrote:<br>>>>><br>>>>> $B@6Ln$G$9!#(B<br>>>>><br>>>>> $BK\2H(Btalk$B%a!<%j%s%0%j%9%H$K2<5-$N$h$&$JEj9F$,$"$j$^$7$?!#(B<br>>>>> $B$I$J$?$+$42sEz$$$?$@$1$^$;$s$G$7$g$&$+(B?<br>>>>>
 $BF|K\8l$G$7$F$$$?$@$1$?$i1QLu$7$F$3$A$i$GEj9F$7$F$b9=$$$^$;$s!#(B<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>>>>> From: Kimon Berlin <<a ymailto="mailto:kimon@deepskymarines.org" href="/mc/compose?to=kimon@deepskymarines.org" target="_self">kimon@deepskymarines.org</a>><br>>>>> Date: 2011/11/2<br>>>>> Subject: [OSM-talk] Japan coastline errors<br>>>>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org" href="/mc/compose?to=talk@openstreetmap.org" target="_self">talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>> Hi,<br>>>>><br>>>>> talk-ja seems to be in Japanese and I'm not quite good enough for that<br>>>>> -- I noticed that there are several spots where the Japanese coastline<br>>>>> has problems, with large land polygons extending
 out to sea. For<br>>>>> example:<br>>>>> <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=43.65&lon=142.87&zoom=8&layers=M" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=43.65&lon=142.87&zoom=8&layers=M</a><br>>>>><br>>>>> <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=33.704&lon=133.075&zoom=9&layers=M" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=33.704&lon=133.075&zoom=9&layers=M</a><br>>>>><br>>>>> <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=32.783&lon=130.372&zoom=10&layers=M" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=32.783&lon=130.372&zoom=10&layers=M</a><br>>>>><br>>>>> Maybe the detailed coastline got deleted at some point? I took a quick<br>>>>> look at the history for some areas, but did not find any obvious<br>>>>>
 changes.<br>>>>><br>>>>> Kimon<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>>> talk mailing list<br>>>>> <a ymailto="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org" href="/mc/compose?to=talk@openstreetmap.org" target="_self">talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br>>>>> <a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk" target="_blank">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk</a><br>>>>><br>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>>> Talk-ja mailing list<br>>>>> <a ymailto="mailto:Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org" href="/mc/compose?to=Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org" target="_self">Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org</a><br>>>>> <a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja"
 target="_blank">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja</a><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>> Talk-ja mailing list<br>>>> <a ymailto="mailto:Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org" href="/mc/compose?to=Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org" target="_self">Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org</a><br>>>> <a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja" target="_blank">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja</a><br>>>><br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> Talk-ja mailing list<br>>> <a ymailto="mailto:Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org" href="/mc/compose?to=Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org" target="_self">Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org</a><br>>> <a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja" target="_blank">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja</a><br>><br>><br>>
 _______________________________________________<br>> Talk-ja mailing list<br>> <a ymailto="mailto:Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org" href="/mc/compose?to=Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org" target="_self">Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja" target="_blank">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja</a><br>><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Talk-ja mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org" href="/mc/compose?to=Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org" target="_self">Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja" target="_blank">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja</a><br></div></blockquote></td></tr></table>