[Talk-ko] Naming conventions in Korea

[Max]

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Addendum:
MapQuest is already rendering bilingual Maps from OSM data. That could
serve you as a ressource until the openstreetmap.org portal updates
it's functionality to support international names.

http://www.mapquest.com/

On 10/14/2014 03:26 PM, Max wrote:
> I absolutely agree with you. The bilingual display on the Mapnik 
> renderer can be useful for many. I hope that there will be a way
> to set the language in the future. Or even better: a list of
> languages from the browser will be used to determine which
> languages to display. (for example: my languages are: english,
> french, korean. The map would display "name:en" if available, if
> not it would display "name:fr" and if that's not available
> "name:ko". If neither of these three is available it would show
> "name:") A requirement for this would be that the map (or at least
> the labels) are aseparate layer, or even better: vectors. There is
> some work being done in this direction. We'll see what the future
> brings. One place where it already is working  have an Android
> smartphone you should try this out.
> 
> https://github.com/mapnik/mapnik/issues/769 
> http://mlm.jochentopf.com/ (currently broken) 
> http://thaimap.osm-tools.org/ an alternative map rendering that
> shows thailand with thai and english names (it combines "name:" and
> name:en" values and looks just like korea is looking now) 
> https://code.google.com/p/osmand/wiki/OsmAndRegionalSettings
> 
> Thanks for your remark about japanese and chinese. I'll add this.
> 
> 
> On 10/14/2014 09:46 AM, Andrew Errington wrote:
>> I have no real objection to the change, but I must point out
>> that having Korean and English in the name=* tag has been
>> extremely useful to me as a visitor to Korea.  Other maps show
>> only Korean. What I would like to see is an international version
>> of the map which shows Korean and English for each object
>> (street, shop, park, whatever) made from "name:ko (name:en)".
>> There have been some experiments for this in the past, so maybe
>> it will happen in the future.
> 
>> I am glad there has been some dialog on this.  I wrote the wiki 
>> pages describing the naming convention in detail, but the
>> original convention was chosen long ago based on the same
>> decision made in Japan.  Recently Japan has moved away from using
>> Japanese and English in the name=* tag.  Again, this is
>> disappointing as the map is useful to me this way, however,
>> hopefully similar functionality can be introduced in the future.
> 
>> I would recommend adding to the Wiki a note about name:ja and 
>> name:zh for Japanese and Chinese name tags too.  I think ja and
>> zh are the correct language codes.
> 
>> Best wishes,
> 
>> Andrew
> 
> 
>> On Sun, 12 Oct 2014 23:14:26 Max wrote:
>>> There has been nobody coming forward with objections to change 
>>> the naming convention. Please do so if you feel that this is 
>>> going to be too fast or not in the right direction.
>>> 
>>> Do you disagree with the following for the wiki?
>>> 
>>> ----
>>> 
>>> Korean is the only official language in Korea. Korean is
>>> written in Hangeul. Street signs often incorporate romanized
>>> or translated versions of names. Most often they are in
>>> English, but Chinese and Japanese can also be found. The
>>> romanization should follow the Revised Romanization of Korean
>>> for South Korea, and the McCune–Reischauer romanization for
>>> North Korea.
>>> 
>>> name= Name in Hangeul name:ko= Name in Hangeul name:en= 
>>> Translation if available, otherwise romanized name:ko_rm= 
>>> romanized
>>> 
>>> Example name=경부고속도로 name:ko=경부고속도로 name:en=Gyeongbu Expressway
>>>  name:ko_rm=Gyeongbugosokdoro
>>> 
>>> ----
>>> 
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