[Talk-ko] Copy of thread reagrding redactions due to copyright violations in North Korea

[Max]

Since this is relevant to this mailinglist, I copy a thread from the 
main talk mailinglist here:


Hi,

     most of the place names in North Korea had been copied from a web
site called "38northdigitalatlas.org". We have received a complaint from
the copyright holders about this. The user who added the information has
admitted to copying it. The copyright holders have asked us to remove
the data. We have tried to convince them to allow us to keep it but it
wasn't possible, so I've redacted the affected place nodes (and some
boundaries) in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/59473904.

If you happen to have access to material than can legally be used to
re-add some of the now missing place names, then your help is very
welcome. Please be meticulous in specifying your sources when adding
place names though - we don't want to re-import 38northdigitalatlas.org
data through the back door. This particularly applies to information
sourced from Wikipedia/Wikidata - please do not use them as sources.

Bye
Frederik

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 From what I checked this two projects are generally unusuable as data 
sources due to licensing issues.

Mateusz Konieczny

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It has been pointed out to me that there is 1983 document on North
Korean place names by the United States Board on Geographic Names in
North Korea. A Google-digitized, public domain version is viewable online,

https://hdl.handle.net/2027/pst.000015364708

and a text-only OCR'd version is also available. But the names are all
in English only, and the coordinates rounded to full arc minutes (i.e.
± 1.5km on the ground). It could be good enough to label places you
see on the imagery, but it is certainly not good enough for any kind of
automated processing.

Bye
Frederik

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Hi Frederik

GNS data quality varies a lot from country to country, and yes with the 
coordinates rounded which had imprecision.

Adding to that the corean alphabet, the South corean community would 
probably be the best to handle that.



Pierre

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Is this the equivalent, but with more detail?
http://geonames.nga.mil/gns/html/namefiles.html

"Foreign geographic names data is freely available. A suitable citation 
note is: "Toponymic information is based on the Geographic Names 
Database, containing official standard names approved by the United 
States Board on Geographic Names and maintained by the National 
Geospatial-Intelligence Agency. More information is available at the 
Maps and Geodata link at www.nga.mil. The National 
Geospatial-Intelligence Agency name, initials, and seal are protected by 
10 United States Code Section 425.”

It’s not clear to me whether the citation is optional.

Bryce Cogswell